Live data from Hacker News

Apple iPhone SE Available on Apple Store Again

apple.com

301–310 of 419 posts

Re: Apple iPhone SE Available on Apple Store Again

#302
post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The iPhone 7/7 Plus is the series I tell everyone to avoid purchasing. We refuse to stock them for resale as well, and it’s gotten so bad we even have customers sign a disclaimer when they bring them in for repair. (Note: We are not Apple authorized, so this is our policy, not Apple’s.) They have a serious manufacturing defect commonly known as the “Audio IC” issue. Apple downplays it, but eventually it hits almost e…

I am ACIT and ACMT certified working for an AASP and you're absolutely right. The Audio IC issue with iPhone 7 and 7+ is awful but Apple refuses to acknowledge it's their problem. They had a rep program for a few months when it first started surfacing but then cancelled it when their own internal investigation said it wasn't their fault. While we tend not to recommend the 6s, we also don't sell and iPhones whether ne…

[deleted]

Re: Apple iPhone SE Available on Apple Store Again

#303

Much as I love the small phone (I had a 5S and an SE) ... the link is for the refurb store. So this isn't anything about Apple restarting production of these - just that they've had some returned that they are now reselling. If you want one, it's probably the best way to get hold of one, but it's not a long-term, or even medium-term solution to the "no decent small phone available" problem.

These are NOT refurbished iPhone SEs, these are new iPhone SEs. They are only in the refurbished section of the store because Apple just didn't bother making a dedicated section for clearance products. If you look at a product listing for an actually refurbished iPhone, you'll see that it's clearly labeled as refurbished in the title and description. [1] The iPhone SE listings are not labeled as such.

[1]: https://www.apple.com/shop/product/FN492LL/A/Refurbished-iPh...

Re: Apple iPhone SE Available on Apple Store Again

#304

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why does it have to be cheaper or have more expensive components? If people value the smaller form factor as they say why aren’t they willing to pay the same as or even more than a larger phone to get it?

Nobody likes to feel like a fool. Paying $1000 bucks for a phone when you can get a similar phone from a competitor for $100 makes you feel like a fool.

Anecdotally, I'd happily pay what the iPhone 8 costs to get an iPhone SE-like form factor with updated hardware.

The recent generations of iPhones all look and feel too large to me. I'm like, maybe Apple should include tactical pants in their accessories:

https://techcrunch.com/2011/05/02/carry-your-ipad-2-in-the-p...

Re: Apple iPhone SE Available on Apple Store Again

#305

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nobody likes to feel like a fool. Paying $1000 bucks for a phone when you can get a similar phone from a competitor for $100 makes you feel like a fool.

If it’s the product you want and the price is worth it to you then why feel a fool? If the similar phone did what you want then you’d buy that instead. The extra $900 is either worth it for the missing feature or not. Nobody’s a fool in this situation.

Paying $900 for it to be an iPhone over android for the average user would be foolish. The icon and ios aren’t worth the money.

Re: Apple iPhone SE Available on Apple Store Again

#306
post #81
post #2

Can someone provide context as to why this is newsworthy for those of us who don't follow Apple's every move? (I failed trying to rephrase this to sound less sarcastic, but I'm genuinely looking for context here).

The iPhone SE is the smallest smartphone that gets security updates, of any platform. (And in 2010 or so it would have been bigger than any smartphone not being called a "phablet," so it's not so much that it's small as that it's the only reasonable-sized phone left in many people's opinions.) If Apple's historical support practice keeps up, it'll remain in support until late 2020 or 2021. Sent from my iPhone SE

5S doesn't get security updates any more?

Re: Apple iPhone SE Available on Apple Store Again

#307
post #224

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're probably right. I've thought about that in the back of my mind, but just like how some people's hands rest on the 15" Macbook pro, I figured Apple would implement accidental touch software. And I've never extensively used a bezel-less phone (current still on the SE). At the end of the day, if accidental touches can be taken care of, you'll get a phone that's more aesthetically pleasing and more screen real est…

I’ve used an iPhone X and XS. Touches on the bottom part of the screen (which replaces the home button) don’t interfere with touches on the other parts of the screen (so you can keep your finger on there and still use the phone), however they aren’t ignored per-se and will still trigger some events like bringing up the controls on the media player or something. Not a dealbreaker but honestly I still prefer true safe-…

This could be addressed with software. I assume that’s what’s going on in sci-fi adaptations of “smart slates”. They’re clearly a powerful platform, but it’s all for nothing without the right UI.

Re: Apple iPhone SE Available on Apple Store Again

#308

I've had an iPhone SE for about 2 years now and I dread the day that I will have to replace this phone. Is it possible to buy a couple more right now and just store them in a cool dry place for the next 5 - 10 years? Would the battery life, etc, still be good?

In 5-10 years your biggest problem would be no more OS updates and no security updates.

Or app developers not updating their apps for smaller phones. When the minority of people cause the majority of the work, app devs tend to ship even if it's broken. Firefox is a great example: many sites are working great in Safari / Chrome, but are broken / not as nice when viewed in Firefox. Again, Firefox is used by considerably less people.

Re: Apple iPhone SE Available on Apple Store Again

#309
post #210

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The same is going to happen for Apple's "Professional" Macbooks. 2015 I think was the last year they made a decent Macbook? Since then it's been the touch bar (annoying but functional but potentially useful) and an absolute shit-show of a keyboard.

personal preference: the current Mac keyboard is the Best keyboard I have ever used for programming and email writing. it is leagues ahead of any other keyboard when it comes to speed and comfort. before the latest Mac keyboard I was a die-hard Thinkpad keyboard fan (x220 none the less). since working on the new Macs it's like I've re-discovered the how good typing can be.

Can you elaborate what you like so much about Apple's butterfly keyboards? I've used every Apple notebook keyboard since 2003 and up until 2015 I was pretty satisfied. The only keyboards I considered better were Thinkpad keyboards. The butterfly keyboard to me is completely unusable due to lack of travel and feedback, so I barely use it. It feels like bashing my fingertips on to a flat surface, hoping for keystrokes to register. I prefer to drag my mechanical keyboard along and use that.

Re: Apple iPhone SE Available on Apple Store Again

#310

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Selling a new small phone is a market problem for Apple. The form factor inherently makes it less expensive to manufacture. Bigger screens cost more etc. Which creates a pricing problem for them. If they price it like a small phone (i.e. lower price) they cannibalize sales of larger phones with higher total margins, and lose money. If they price it with the same total margin as the larger phones, it'd still be the lo…

That's a dangerous strategy considering that an iPhone is the "window" to their ecosystem: App store, Apple Pay, the iOS UX experience, etc. I know many people who love Apple's ecosystem but who won't pay through the nose for a "premium" phone that's way overpowered for their needs.

The only gateway I needed was a work-provided iphone 6. Soon after, I switched my personal phone to an iphone 6s, and I was all in after that...macbook, watch, icloud, etc...

Honestly, before I was 'forced' (for work purposes) to use an iphone, I wasn't a fan of Apple - although I admittedly never tried using one. Since then, the three guys that sit near me at work have bought into the apple ecosystem as well.

Post reply on HN