One of the Biggest At-Home DNA Testing Companies Is Working with the FBI

Post by mirimir » Sat, Feb 02, 2019, 8:29 AM UTC

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Same here. However, I have no illusions about stopping any of this. The global panopticon is just too useful for authoritarians. So my solution is to avoid attracting any attention in meatspace. Not doing anything that could generate troublesome records. Such as leaving DNA around. I mean, I certainly leave DNA around, when I go out for stuff. But there's nothing involved that I need to hide. I also make no effort to…

> And I do torrent some, even when I'm not really after anything. I’d like to subscribe to your RSS feed of magnet: links.

Post by maxerickson » Sat, Feb 02, 2019, 9:19 AM UTC

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It is probably wrong to think of DNA as personal property. Its public use more closely resembles a commons which is shared by many. We don't give individuals the right to pollute air, for instance, simply because they own property that has air on it. Likewise we should develop principles for information which when combined with other information can be used to transgress against 3rd parties' enjoyment of their own pr…

> Itis probably wrong to think of DNA as personal property. DNA cannot be thought of any other way whilst we continue to use it for personal identification. We don't have another mechanism for protecting something uniquely identifying from tyranny. Perhaps we should, especially as in this case others privacy may be co-dependent on myself, as you noted.

Post by make3 » Sat, Feb 02, 2019, 9:22 AM UTC

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How long until this is feasible? I've heard of DNA sequencing machines for $2k, but are not easy or reliable.

I would gladly pay $2k to keep my data at home. To me, that is much cheaper than what it would cost to remove genetic data from multiple corporations and governments, if that is even feasible.

Post by tomonl » Sat, Feb 02, 2019, 9:41 AM UTC

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> and their families That's how a local cold murder case was solved last year. DNA from a 25-year-old crime scene was run against the samples in one of these genealogy databases, and they found a familial match. Police set up a sting to covertly collect DNA from that person's immediate family. They got their DNA match with a brother's water bottle police took from a trash can after he worked a DJ gig at a school. htt…

Total surveillance or global DNA law enforcement database would solve many murders and prevent wrongful convictions. However, it would also give many opportunities for framing convenient suspects and "encouraging" confessions. I am sure your case was above board but, being born in a totalitarian state, I do not trust law enforcement too much and prefer to err on the side of not solving some crimes. My 2c.

Post by vonseel » Sat, Feb 02, 2019, 9:46 AM UTC

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Total surveillance or global DNA law enforcement database would solve many murders and prevent wrongful convictions. However, it would also give many opportunities for framing convenient suspects and "encouraging" confessions. I am sure your case was above board but, being born in a totalitarian state, I do not trust law enforcement too much and prefer to err on the side of not solving some crimes. My 2c.

Same here. However, I have no illusions about stopping any of this. The global panopticon is just too useful for authoritarians. So my solution is to avoid attracting any attention in meatspace. Not doing anything that could generate troublesome records. Such as leaving DNA around. I mean, I certainly leave DNA around, when I go out for stuff. But there's nothing involved that I need to hide. I also make no effort to…