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Apple has completed its acquisition of Shazam

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Re: Apple has completed its acquisition of Shazam

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endorphone wrote: post #72
bluetidepro wrote: post #8

Shazam is the one app that has been around since about the birth of the iPhone that honestly still blows my mind in it's capabilities. The fact it can so quickly figure out any song in so many environments is incredible. Call me simple, but I use it almost daily, and it is accurate close to 98% of the time. I absolutely love Shazam's iOS app, and they have done a great job keeping up with UI/UX treads for it over the…

I agree with the lauding of Shazam, but I am interested in your statement "I use it almost daily" -- what for? I've always viewed Shazam as a novelty and have installed and uninstalled it a few random times, but as Jobs would say it seems like a feature not a product.

I probably use it once every couple weeks. So not quite daily, but certainly regularly. If you're a musically inclined person, Shazam is a superpower.

Re: Apple has completed its acquisition of Shazam

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Post by acjohnson55 »

frenchman_in_ny wrote: post #179
bluetidepro wrote: post #8

Shazam is the one app that has been around since about the birth of the iPhone that honestly still blows my mind in it's capabilities. The fact it can so quickly figure out any song in so many environments is incredible. Call me simple, but I use it almost daily, and it is accurate close to 98% of the time. I absolutely love Shazam's iOS app, and they have done a great job keeping up with UI/UX treads for it over the…

While I find Shazam to be amazing, I find SoundHound's capabilities even better in terms of identifying a song based on humming the tune or hearing a live version. I was at a live jazz concert last night, and the trio started playing a riff on tune I recognized but couldn't exactly place. SoundHound nailed it (Sonny Rollins "Four"), while Shazam had no idea.

That's because that's not how Shazam's recognition works (unless they have a secondary mechanism). Shazam is very sensitive to time and frequency features of specific recordings, which is also what makes it so robust in noisy environments. Having both apps is handy for their relative strengths.

Re: Apple has completed its acquisition of Shazam

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Post by acjohnson55 »

spanishgum wrote: post #239
fnord123 wrote: post #90

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>With all that said, PLEASEEEEEE don't ruin it, Apple. This looks to me like an acquihire for the ML/AI/DL talent. So basically, yes they will be diverted to other projects.

Is Shazam really ML/AI/DL? I thought it was more of a signal processing and search engine system. You transform snippets of audio signals into text, pump it into a distributed database, and then perform a search against that. Maybe there is some AI involved in noise reduction, but that seems like a rather small component.

"Music information retrieval" is what researchers call the overarching field. You might say the Shazam algorithm is akin to those fields in the sense that it relies on feature extraction. It's possible they may train a classifier to do the matching, but yeah, probably not purely ML/AI/DL.

Re: Apple has completed its acquisition of Shazam

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Post by acjohnson55 »

meowface wrote: post #228
kidsnow wrote: post #157

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THAT is the kind of startup I wish I could work for.

Me too. Are there any similar startup with functional prototypes or products? Something like Shazam, or Theranos if it were actually legitimate and had a working product.

Echo Nest was like them, but they got gobbled up by Spotify several years ago.

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Post by dapreja »

bluetidepro wrote: post #8

Shazam is the one app that has been around since about the birth of the iPhone that honestly still blows my mind in it's capabilities. The fact it can so quickly figure out any song in so many environments is incredible. Call me simple, but I use it almost daily, and it is accurate close to 98% of the time. I absolutely love Shazam's iOS app, and they have done a great job keeping up with UI/UX treads for it over the…

I just hope they don't shit on the android support like Snapchat. It's the first ever paid app i got and i'd like to think that's saying something for an android user. Probably far fetch but it would be nice the android version became open source if that should ever get dropped by apple (so community can maintain it)

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Post by nielsbot »

kodablah wrote: post #171
jakobegger wrote: post #166

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I thought Apple only went after big companies that copied their design? I've never heard of Apple threatening individuals in the Open Source community -- am I missing something?

> am I missing something? Not particularly. With conditionals added, we can differentiate any behavior and pretend similarities don't exist.

Do you have examples? I am not personally aware of any...

Re: Apple has completed its acquisition of Shazam

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Post by djrogers »

capkutay wrote: post #234
bluetidepro wrote: post #8

Shazam is the one app that has been around since about the birth of the iPhone that honestly still blows my mind in it's capabilities. The fact it can so quickly figure out any song in so many environments is incredible. Call me simple, but I use it almost daily, and it is accurate close to 98% of the time. I absolutely love Shazam's iOS app, and they have done a great job keeping up with UI/UX treads for it over the…

> With all that said, PLEASEEEEEE don't ruin it, Apple I don't think the overall UX, song recognition, tag tracking will be ruined > Specifically meaning I love it's integration with Spotify. I will be bummed if that goes away for an exclusive Apple Music integration. Well that was pretty much what Apple paid for. I can already see that all my shazam tags automatically show up in Apple Music for me. Clearly this is j…

> I can already see that all my shazam tags automatically show up in Apple Music for me

That was happening before the acquisition as well

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