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In killing Inbox, Google takes another swipe at its most passionate users

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Post by lunchables »

wybiral wrote: post #63

I don't even try to understand Google anymore. They released "Hangouts Chat" not to be confused with Google Hangouts, which is not to be confused with their Allo, Duo, Voice, or Messenger apps. On the upside, they shut down Google Spaces and replaced Gmail Chat with Google Hangouts (not Hangouts Chat, that's different) and now they've canned Inbox and are keeping the Gmail app. Huh?

And if we can't follow this, imagine the average consumer. I can't even imagine how much more successful Google could be if they could cure their insane A.D.D. problem.

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Post by lunchables »

paublyrne wrote: post #5

The new look Gmail has performed very poorly for me. Hanging for extended periods while changing views, and during search. I'm not sure why a UI refresh would have such an effect but I've been avoiding switching because of this

I've been using the gmail website since beta (20 year beta, I know, but this was extremely early, when it was invite only) for my email and I just switched to Thunderbird about two weeks ago. It really is that bad.

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Post by qalmakka »

I've only used Inbox since the very first day it was released, and I loved it; it's a simple mix of concepts that resulted in an experience that has made mail much more pleasant (and less of a hassle) to me. I don't think anyone that has intensively used Inbox in the last years may think even remotely that the new Gmail is a similar experience, because it definitely still has a completely different look and feel.

I think I'll switch back to Thunderbird on desktop for the time being, given that the hassle (and delays) of having several POP3 accounts configured on the Gmail website isn't really worth the effort without Inbox.

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Post by jsjohnst »

freehunter wrote: post #290
jsjohnst wrote: post #157

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> no one stopped to wonder why they're giving it away practically free? Practically free!? Google Apps for domains is either $5 or $10+ a month per user, depending on feature set. That’s roughly the same price as most other commercial email providers. I don’t know for sure, but my guess is they make a profit on every account just on those monthly fees.

Office 365 is literally double the price of Gmail, and full-blown Exchange is even more expensive. I wouldn't call double the price "roughly the same".

It’s literally not double the price. Office 365 is $5-15 depending on edition (Business Essentials, Business, and Business Premier) and if you do an annual commitment. That’s the same price range as GSuite which is $5 to $25 depending on version (Basic, Business, Enterprise).

Sources:

https://products.office.com/en-us/business/office-365-busine...

https://products.office.com/en-us/business/office-365-busine...

https://products.office.com/en-us/business/office-365-busine...

https://gsuite.google.com/pricing.html

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Post by mattkevan »

carlesfe wrote: post #258
mattkevan wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

After being a keen Google user in the late 2000s to mid 2010s, I’ve been in on a process of extracting them from my life now their true creepy colours are on display. YouTube => Deleted Google plus => Deleted Gmail => Deleted, switched to Soverin [0], works great, less than $4 per month for 25gb email hosting Drive => Deleted, moved to iCloud Docs => Deleted, use iWork for docs and Bear [1] for text Search => Duck Du…

How is Soverin delivery? It's the first time I've heard of them so they don't seem to have been around for many time. Newer mail companies sometimes have problems delivering to Microsoft or Yahoo servers. Can you comment on that? I'd be very interested to switch.

I’ve not had a problem so far, but then I don’t know many people who still use Yahoo or hotmail email addresses.

My wife’s company use Exchange and I haven’t had any trouble there.

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Post by mattkevan »

Terretta wrote: post #255
mattkevan wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

After being a keen Google user in the late 2000s to mid 2010s, I’ve been in on a process of extracting them from my life now their true creepy colours are on display. YouTube => Deleted Google plus => Deleted Gmail => Deleted, switched to Soverin [0], works great, less than $4 per month for 25gb email hosting Drive => Deleted, moved to iCloud Docs => Deleted, use iWork for docs and Bear [1] for text Search => Duck Du…

About Soverin — how is the spam filtering? Ruthless spam filtering without false positives is Gmail’s “killer app”, with insane scale and network effects protecting that lead.

I’ve noticed a bit more spam, but not hugely so. Apple Mail’s spam filtering has caught everything pretty well.

A few years ago, when I was using gmail my address got used as the sender on a spam campaign and I was overwhelmed for weeks. Had nothing like that so far.

Maybe I’ve been lucky.

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Post by giminoshi »

m-localhost wrote: post #234
uluyol wrote: post #22

The death of reader wasn't as bad as this for me. Soon after reader died, alternatives popped up left and right, and some of them are better than reader ever was. What alternative is there to gmail/inbox? Unlike an RSS reader, I think it's much more difficult to make an email service that's close to being as good as gmail/inbox while having the same level of features, especially across platforms.

I'm waiting for https://superhuman.com/ finally to launch

Are you already using it? Looks great - I'd like an invite if so.
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