Nike Says Its $250 Running Shoes Will Make You Run Much Faster • Hacker News Board

Re: Nike Says Its $250 Running Shoes Will Make You Run Much Faster

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Post by justinator » Mon, Jul 23, 2018, 5:24 PM UTC

akanet wrote: post #261

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I have to say, running is a little more than a hobby to me, (obsession perhaps?). So I understand how runners think about running, and the gear they purchase for running. There's literally NO WAY I'd buy a pair of shoes I can run in for 100 miles for $250. I wouldn't be able to NOT think about every mile just costing me $2.50. Call me frugal, but that's two pairs of any other shoe, and I can run in those for most of…

I think your justification for your opinion is sound, but I think the justification for the other side is sound as well. An elite runner may have only a handful of marathons in a year they really want to trim time off of, and another $250 on top of the many months (and dollars) that go into training for them seems reasonable. Perhaps the best argument for why this plan seems reasonable is that many ordinary people al…

In software engineering terms, these shoes would be, "premature optimization"

Re: Nike Says Its $250 Running Shoes Will Make You Run Much Faster

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Post by 48snickers » Mon, Jul 23, 2018, 8:30 PM UTC

I'm surprised they didn't compare the Vaporfly 4% to two other shoes: the Nike Zoom Fly and the Reebok Floatride Run Fast. The former is an identical shoe, but with the Pebax replaced with another foam (Lunarlon?). The latter is another Pebax foam shoe, but in a different form factor. That way they could tease out of it is the material or the shoe design.

Re: Nike Says Its $250 Running Shoes Will Make You Run Much Faster

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Post by thirdsun » Tue, Jul 24, 2018, 9:00 AM UTC

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I concur. They might be a highly respectable news organisation, but their sales team or whoever is coming with their consumer advertising tactics are outright nasty. Deeply discounting the first few periods to let people forget about it and then start to charge X times as much on autopay is pretty much the shadiest tactic that’s still legal.

Oh, it's definitely illegal in the EU.

It's not. Other popular european companies like Vodafone or Sky do the exact same thing. They tell you upfront that it will be X € for 12 months, and Y € starting with the 13th month. Unless you cancel.

I hate this as much as the next guy. However it's clearly stated in advance and if you miss it you haven't paid attention during sign up.

Re: Nike Says Its $250 Running Shoes Will Make You Run Much Faster

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Post by mulletbum » Wed, Jul 25, 2018, 12:40 PM UTC

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That's weird...I know hundreds of runners ranging from their teens to their 70s and only two of us own crutches. I have a pair because my brother broke his knee playing basketball and left them at my place. Another runner has a pair because a car hit her while she was biking and broke her leg.

Weird. Must just be the people I know then? Overuse injuries got a bunch of people I knew. They'd use crutches to speed recovery up a bit, or to get around if it was bad enough.

Why do you guys survey your friends for crutches?