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The San Franciso Fire Department makes its own wooden ladders by hand
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Re: The San Franciso Fire Department makes its own wooden ladders by hand
#302Earlier quoted context omitted.
You should see some streets in San Francisco. No way that a fire engine is fitting on those.
The narrowest street in San Francisco is roughly a regular European street. This[1] is par for the course on most European cities, while San Francisco has very few streets narrower than this[2] (and the average is probably wider, if you look anywhere westwards of Park Presidio where theoretically two way streets are wide enough for traffic to continue flowing in both direction even with double parked trucks. I would…
Just as a side point... A lot of architects like this idea from an aesthetic or architectural-sociological reasons.
Living in em.. these as houses don't give you a lot of privacy. People walk by, less than a meter from where you're sitting. They sometimes stop to look at your TV.
You get used to it, but it's not the kind of thing people go looking for on purpose.
Re: The San Franciso Fire Department makes its own wooden ladders by hand
#303Earlier quoted context omitted.
At high voltages the electricity may be able to arc between the steps. Electricity will do some pretty incredible things at high voltages. Check out this video of some idiots turning a powerline into a Jacob's ladder. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yBTHrXEK4U
I can't tell what, if anything, they were doing besides filming.
i think a weight tied to thin uninsulated wire, thrown like a baseball over the lines
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#306Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's kind of a silly thing to say given that the government of SF spends hundreds of millions of dollars on the homeless a year.
My immediate reaction is incredulity at the notion a city could spend hundreds of millions on its homeless population and still have a homeless population... Are there further details/good articles you would be able to provide?
According to [1], the city gets 40-50 people off the streets every week, but there are 100-150 new homeless people each week. So at that simple numbers game, the homelessness problem is not yet being solved.
You can see the budget at [2]. Most of the budget goes to Supportive Housing, ie, paying for housing for people to keep them off the street.
1: https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/29-million-incre...
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#307Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why does the fire department respond to a medical emergency?
Often times fire engines and trucks are staffed with 3 EMTs and at least 1 Paramedic. Then the ambulance with 2 paramedics, or 1 paramedic 1 EMT arrives. It's all about level of care. Overkill for a twisted ankle sure but crucial for a cardiac or other life threatening event.
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Re: The San Franciso Fire Department makes its own wooden ladders by hand
#308The Discovery Channel's "Dirty Jobs"[0] show made a segment involving the SFFD's ladder construction/maintenance crew. In it, they explained that wooden ladders are cheaper to maintain than aluminum ones and I think also discount fiberglass ladders as well. It's worth a watch if one is interested in this topic. 0 - http://www.discovery.com/tv-shows/dirty-jobs/about-this-show...
LOL at SFFD giving any shits about costs. This is the same department that power grabbed emergency medical response away from dedicated paramedics in ambulances. Responding in full ladder trucks to take care of drunk homeless people...yeah, they do that, costing millions every year in added expenses and road repairs. But good for them for saving a few bucks on ladders, that must make a huge difference.
I don't like this type of argument. Dollars saved are dollars saved, even if there are bigger problema that could be solved
Re: The San Franciso Fire Department makes its own wooden ladders by hand
#309The Discovery Channel's "Dirty Jobs"[0] show made a segment involving the SFFD's ladder construction/maintenance crew. In it, they explained that wooden ladders are cheaper to maintain than aluminum ones and I think also discount fiberglass ladders as well. It's worth a watch if one is interested in this topic. 0 - http://www.discovery.com/tv-shows/dirty-jobs/about-this-show...
LOL at SFFD giving any shits about costs. This is the same department that power grabbed emergency medical response away from dedicated paramedics in ambulances. Responding in full ladder trucks to take care of drunk homeless people...yeah, they do that, costing millions every year in added expenses and road repairs. But good for them for saving a few bucks on ladders, that must make a huge difference.
This is part of a first responder program, occasionally saving lives. Plenty of cities across the US do this sort of thing.
If you have an emergency - especially a medical one - whoever is closest is the right person to respond, be it fire department, ambulance, or police. 3 to 10 minutes in an emergency can make a huge difference. Like it or not, a drunk homeless person is generally a health and/or safety issue. Coming in trucks that they would usually drive also means that if there happens to be a fire call while they are out helping someone with possible first aid, they can leave from the scene, keeping more people safe. For auto accidents, sometimes the fire truck is one of the better things to have at the scene for visibility purposes.
I would also like to add that many - but not all - fire departments also drive ambulances.
Does it cost money? Sure. But if it helps folks, I'm for it. There are other options, but I'm not convinced they will cost less money (more ambulances of different sorts, more manpower for first responders positioned in places across cities, and so on... all have their costs).
I'd fully recommend actually looking into the reasons for some of this, and what other options are for similar outcomes.
Re: The San Franciso Fire Department makes its own wooden ladders by hand
#310Earlier quoted context omitted.
I mean, why would the shape change?
I don't know - I'm not in charge of the design of fire helmets in the UK am I. I just know they changed and it's a shame it's not the iconic old design we had.
This is a weird statement. Do you also find it's a shame airplanes are no longer the iconic tail dragger with huge propellers?
Iconic british firefighter helmet use to be leather than metal. There are very good reason why they have been changed. The wikipedia page explains the differences over time and culture: