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Post by smolder »

jadell wrote: post #63
hellofunk wrote: post #62

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> He was an addict and got sober Commenter was talking about alcohol. He drinks a lot of alcohol in most of the episodes I’ve seen.

Addicted to drugs, not alcohol.

It may be worth pointing out here that with substance abuse, people often end up substituting one dangerous thing for another. Just because someone's a recovered heroin or cocaine user and not an alcoholic doesn't mean alcohol's not riskier for them than for other people. Whether or not that'd be true of Anthony Bourdain or not I can't weigh in on.

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jdietrich wrote: post #127
jb1991 wrote: post #68

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Entirely untrue and offensive. Propagating this is dangerous and fuels the stigma that makes treatment harder. Not all mental illness is chemical, but a lot very much is.

Chemical imbalances may possibly play some role in depression, but we have no idea of which chemicals or what the "correct" balance is. Antidepressant drugs do work, but we don't really know why. Selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors appear to work. So do monoamine oxidase inhibitors. So do selective norepinephrine and dopamine reuptake inhibitors. We used to think that tianeptine was a serotonin reuptake enhancer,…

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Post by qume »

hackermailman wrote: post #276
Miltnoid wrote: post #153

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You might like to think that, but its not an honest representation of the majority of suicides. Most people who kill themselves do it, not for circumstantial reasons, but physiological ones like clinical depression.

Many people who try and kill themselves, according to friends who are staff at peer run suicide prevention clinics, do so because of a temporary insanity. They aren't depressed, they just sort of lose their mind for a few hours and if they survive the attempt have no idea how they ended up almost killing themselves. Everybody assumes these people are routinely depressed all the time but they tell you otherwise, that…

This is a very important point to understand to help people who are in that mode. Dont let them be alone and keep them talking. It will pass in an hour or less.

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Post by staticautomatic »

geezerjay wrote: post #300
jderick wrote: post #296

Something I just learned: suicide is 120 times more prevalent among alcoholics and alcohol is involved in a quarter of all suicides. http://www.mces.org/pages/suicide_fact_alcohol.php

Coreelation doesn't imply causality. I'm sure some people dealing with depression seek refuge at the bottom of a bottle.

Correlation does imply causation. It just doesn't prove it.

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Post by cookingrobot »

staticautomatic wrote: post #304
geezerjay wrote: post #300

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Coreelation doesn't imply causality. I'm sure some people dealing with depression seek refuge at the bottom of a bottle.

Correlation does imply causation. It just doesn't prove it.

Even when there is causation, you still don't which is the cause and effect, or if both are effects of hidden common cause.

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Post by ada1981 »

monkeynotes wrote: post #224
ada1981 wrote: post #49

I struggled with mental health issues my entire adult life. Psychosis, Schizophrenia, Biploar, Anxiety, Suicidal Depression, Panic Attacks. It wasn’t until I changed my relationship to all emotions and then sought out a variety of support to safely go deeply into my experience that I was able to find relief. 1 session of MDMA therapy lifted a decade of suicidal thoughts; session 2 a year later largely freed me of anx…

I wish I knew where to seek the treatment you found. I suffer from anxiety, depression, and trauma and it limits my potential every day. I have counselling but I find it extremely difficult to connect with the source of all of it and flush it out. I know it's in there, hiding. The ego death you speak of is what I invite every day but the negativity and shame that my ego has insulated itself with is extremely resilien…

Please e-mail me and I can provide you with a list of resources, books, videos, people, practioners, etc.

A@175g.com

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Post by nucleardog »

nixme wrote: post #267
pitaj wrote: post #232

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I may be wrong, but this how I understand it: Depression is not hopelessness. It is not sadness. It is not unhappiness. Depression is a chemical state in the brain which leads to lower general emotion levels. Depression is when you feel nothing . Depressed people may self-harm to "feel something".

I'm not sure it helps to describe depression as a chemical state. Happiness and sadness are also "chemical" states.

It's helpful in that it's telling what it isn't.

Depression isn't just an error of thought. It's not a lack of understanding about how great your life really is. It's a hardware error causing the software to malfunction.

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Post by staticautomatic »

cookingrobot wrote: post #305
staticautomatic wrote: post #304

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Correlation does imply causation. It just doesn't prove it.

Even when there is causation, you still don't which is the cause and effect, or if both are effects of hidden common cause.

That doesn't make any sense.
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