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The end of India’s ‘IT miracle’?

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Re: The end of India’s ‘IT miracle’?

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Post by collyw »

mantas wrote: post #87
StudentStuff wrote: post #69

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Entrepreneurial spirit generally doesn't emerge from standard formal education, but not much is done to suppress it, and there are often extracurriculars to encourage young entrepreneurs. Rote memorization also only gets you so far, often you get tested on how you arrived at an answer, not just on the answer itself. Understanding the process is just as important as knowing it. Perhaps this is a bit like the schooling…

Fun part is, high school is/was the other way. USSR curriculum was full of stuff that 99% of students wouldn't ever use. There was little incentive to use anything in practice. You had to memorise, pass test and then you can forget it. This practice continues to this day in big parts of ex-Soviet sphere. I had plenty of teachers who took pride in saying that "stupid Americans learn this only in university!". Yet Amer…

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Post by emm386 »

It is more of a nightmare than a miracle. Not developing software is better than dveloping software by indian "engineers". I worked with teams in India, and found that they're basically time wasters. They probably cost more than they save, by producingg poor quality work. I myself work in a firm that deployed an army of teams in India, what I've notice that these guys are obstucle, especially when my work depends on them.

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Post by Alterlife »

osrec wrote: post #242
mritun wrote: post #219

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35 lacks you mentioned is a good starting salary for a person at Amazon or MS. 10L is not, even in Pune.

35L is about 40k GBP - the average cost of a JS developer in many parts of the UK. Are you saying that's a starting salary for a developer in India - because in that case, why outsource?!

There are starting developers who get paid that much but it's not common. I hear most consulting firms pay about 1.5-6L, and Amazon pays 12-14L.

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Post by wsc981 »

vkatluri wrote: post #241
eriken wrote: post #223

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You can always negotiate, but if you accept an offer I expect you to commit.

Just curious, commit for how long? I have been in situations before, where I have accepted an offer, started a job and was informed 3 months later that the company mis-calculated the budgets/revenues and have to let go a bunch of people. Guess who gets let go first? The people who started the latest. Doesn't this go both ways? In this day and age in America, there's no loyalty going in either direction, employer or e…

As a freelancer I feel I should try to commit for at least a year - and I will try to work a bit longer of possible. I believe this looks better on my resume as well.

I think it's hard for most jobs, at least in my space (mobile software) to do much effective work when staying only for -let's say- 3 months at some company.

But mismanagement happens. The example you mention of being let go after just 3 months should be the exception, not the rule. I certainly never experienced something like that. Then again I like to work for big clients, feels to me more guaranteed they will still be in business tomorrow and me getting paid.

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kamaal wrote: post #260
throwaway1414 wrote: post #174

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Looks like the people who left Google you know were not hired into Google proper. What you describe sounds like they were working for a vendor providing QA services to Google. Sure your friends were probably walking into Google office with a Google ID card but being on Google payroll is a completely different thing from being on a vendor payroll. Every company has core teams and non-core teams. Why do you present the…

>>But the work in Amazon is at least two orders of magnitude better than what you get in Infosys. No. In fact this is precisely the kind of binary classification that forces people to make bad decisions. Please try to understand that people working Wipro or Infosys or TCS are humans like us, who use the same programming languages and same computers. This binary classification is why people up becoming SREs at Google,…

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Post by stealthmodeclan »

s_trumpet wrote: post #232
stealthmodeclan wrote: post #63

What people don't realize is that there are tons of American companies which have offices in Banglore and one in texas or california and nearly all employees are Indian except a few. Those companies are massively profitable but they come across as American. Indian CEOs (somtimes even CEO is American but not having complete control over the corporation) of those companies send American employees for delivering keynote…

Utter FUD. There are at least 3 major payment processors on the level of Stripe or Braintree. These have existed for the better part of a decade now. India is a very domestic market - most tech products don't leave our shores at all.

Utter FUD. There are at least 3 major payment processors on the level of Stripe or Braintree. These have existed for the better part of a decade now.

Those payment processors not able to collect payment from international customers. Most SaaS companies need global acceptance.

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