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Guy Finds StarCraft Source Code and Returns It to Blizzard

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Re: Guy Finds StarCraft Source Code and Returns It to Blizzard

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Post by Dylan16807 »

braveo wrote: post #300
Dylan16807 wrote: post #274

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> And you know it What do I know? I seriously need you to explain what you imagine I'm saying. > Tell that to the banking industry. A bank using 30 year old code does not mean that the IP rights to that code are worth a single penny. They use it because they need their systems to be bug-compatible with what they have been doing for decades, and they would not lose competitive advantage if they no longer had copyright…

> They use it because they need their systems to be bug-compatible with what they have been doing for decades, and they would not lose competitive advantage if they no longer had copyright over that code. You mean in the same way Google is going after Uber for stealing their intellectual property? You're unreasonable, I'm done with this conversation.

> You mean in the same way Google is going after Uber for stealing their intellectual property?

Bleeding edge technology does not even resemble decades-old COBOL bugs.

By the time we hit a similar number of years, those patents will be expired and Uber will be allowed to use the designs.

You've yet again strawmanned me into being against all IP, and not just decades-old technical IP.

Re: Guy Finds StarCraft Source Code and Returns It to Blizzard

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Post by braveo »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #301
braveo wrote: post #300

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> They use it because they need their systems to be bug-compatible with what they have been doing for decades, and they would not lose competitive advantage if they no longer had copyright over that code. You mean in the same way Google is going after Uber for stealing their intellectual property? You're unreasonable, I'm done with this conversation.

> You mean in the same way Google is going after Uber for stealing their intellectual property? Bleeding edge technology does not even resemble decades-old COBOL bugs. By the time we hit a similar number of years, those patents will be expired and Uber will be allowed to use the designs. You've yet again strawmanned me into being against all IP, and not just decades-old technical IP.

> By the time we hit a similar number of years, those patents will be expired and Uber will be allowed to use the designs.

Bullshit.

The IP is still legally owned by someone else, and they're suing based up on that IP, not just because. The age of the code or technology doesn't enter into it.

Re: Guy Finds StarCraft Source Code and Returns It to Blizzard

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Post by Dylan16807 »

braveo wrote: post #302
Dylan16807 wrote: post #301

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> You mean in the same way Google is going after Uber for stealing their intellectual property? Bleeding edge technology does not even resemble decades-old COBOL bugs. By the time we hit a similar number of years, those patents will be expired and Uber will be allowed to use the designs. You've yet again strawmanned me into being against all IP, and not just decades-old technical IP.

> By the time we hit a similar number of years, those patents will be expired and Uber will be allowed to use the designs. Bullshit. The IP is still legally owned by someone else, and they're suing based up on that IP, not just because. The age of the code or technology doesn't enter into it.

Patents expire.

Re: Guy Finds StarCraft Source Code and Returns It to Blizzard

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Post by braveo »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #303
braveo wrote: post #302

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> By the time we hit a similar number of years, those patents will be expired and Uber will be allowed to use the designs. Bullshit. The IP is still legally owned by someone else, and they're suing based up on that IP, not just because. The age of the code or technology doesn't enter into it.

Patents expire.

right, that's MY point. You call it old code, I call it code that's currently covered by IP law, the rest doesn't matter.

Atleast we agree now, the age of the code is irrelevant.

Re: Guy Finds StarCraft Source Code and Returns It to Blizzard

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Post by Dylan16807 »

braveo wrote: post #304
Dylan16807 wrote: post #303

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Patents expire.

right, that's MY point. You call it old code, I call it code that's currently covered by IP law, the rest doesn't matter. Atleast we agree now, the age of the code is irrelevant.

The age is why patents expire.

I think the copyright on code should be as short as patents. Nice and simple.

Law is hard to do right. Some parts do good and some parts don't. The first few years of code copyright do good. As far as I know the rest of those years don't.

Re: Guy Finds StarCraft Source Code and Returns It to Blizzard

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Post by braveo »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #305
braveo wrote: post #304

Earlier quoted context omitted.

right, that's MY point. You call it old code, I call it code that's currently covered by IP law, the rest doesn't matter. Atleast we agree now, the age of the code is irrelevant.

The age is why patents expire. I think the copyright on code should be as short as patents. Nice and simple. Law is hard to do right. Some parts do good and some parts don't. The first few years of code copyright do good. As far as I know the rest of those years don't.

The age isn't relevant, what's relevant is whether the patent/copyright currently exists and who holds said patent/copyright.

And before you continue with this silly argument about age, copyright and patents can be invalidated 2 days after the claim is made. The law doesn't ask how old they are, the law asks if the copyright/patent is still in effect.

You want it to be about the age because you're pushing an agenda, but the law doesn't care about age.

Google isn't going after Uber on the basis of the tech being new, they're going after Uber on the basis of their existing intellectual property.

Re: Guy Finds StarCraft Source Code and Returns It to Blizzard

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Post by throwaway18917 »

Tactic wrote: post #230
Svekax wrote: post #81

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You buy a box of old documents on Ebay. It contains an original manuscript of The Fellowship of the Ring with J. R. R. Tolkien's edits and notes in the margins. Tolkien's estate demands the copy back so they can burn it. You should mail it to them because they own it, right? It's just a book, right? No, you shouldn't. They owners shouldn't be able to destroy it for the same reason we have laws protecting monuments an…

Do they own it? If so, yes. Give it back. What they do with it is on them. Crucify them, not the person doing the right thing. If you don't like Blizzard's stance, deal with them, not criticize someone for not achieving the end you prefer.

Lol but watch everyone flip their shit when Apple tells people that they can't modify their software or hardware because "Apple owns it".
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