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Re: The Other Half

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Post by agumonkey »

shanusmagnus wrote: post #210
bleair wrote: post #208

This part fascinated me : "" I waited 5 anxious minutes, and then was bought into a room with two doctors, one of whom turned out to be Dr. Sonny Palmer. Sonny said Georg thought I needed some help, and I’d be checked within a day. I asked if he’d seen the letter with his name on it. He hadn’t. He went and got it. He came back and said I was going to be operated on in an hour. "" You obviously don't want to be rude w…

Couldn't agree with this more. I'm from MN, we tend to be pretty polite and understated, assume that doctors (and other authorities) know what they're talking about. Had a friend who progressed to a heart attack in a waiting room because he didn't want to make a fuss. Make a fuss.

My aunt waited 4 hours even vomiting ... If you don't bleed out they assume you have nothing.

We need to adjust healthcare. Way more important than the digital world and social networks.

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Post by annnnd »

adrianN wrote: post #299
ars wrote: post #237

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Want to disrupt the heart attack market? Make a small home machine that can take an EKG and tell you if everything is fine, or if you should go get checked. Adjust it to give some false positives, but no false negatives. Make it cost around $50, and make sure it's fully reusable (i.e. you can borrow one from a friend for a quick check). If machine learning is not up to the task, then send the EKG to a doctor, I belie…

Good luck with the lawsuits when your machine gives the wrong answer.

Only two answers possible:

* go see a doctor

* urgently go see a doctor!

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Post by falsedan »

gknoy wrote: post #215
branchless wrote: post #197

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I just don't understand how people take the USA seriously. One of the most important things, which I doubt is in dispute, is access to healthcare. The USA tells us their model of capitalism is the best. They apply their system to healthcare. It utterly fails to deliver versus "socialist" solutions. At what point are you guys going to join the dots on this contradiction?

> One of the most important things, which I doubt is in dispute, is access to healthcare. One dispute seems to be over the meaning of the word "access". Some people, like my Libertarian friend, feel that "access" is satisfied if you have the freedom to choose your provider (or none at all) -- but god help you if you don't have any money, because no one should be taxed to pay for others' health care. For many, taxatio…

  >  the best system seemed to be Australian
Insurance-wise, sure. The single-payer guaranteed basic medical care + private top-ups for faster access/non-medicare-covered procedures offers a lot of flexibility! But I think single-payer only is better (singe the single payer has a gigantic position to use when negotiating prices with pharma companies, medical associations, & hospital administrations). The French system is single-payer guaranteed (up to a percentage) + optional insurance to cover the remainder.

  > An important element of the French insurance system is solidarity: the more ill a person becomes, the less they pay.
nice

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Post by throwanem »

tomcam wrote: post #290
fapjacks wrote: post #278

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Seneca talks about this a lot. When I first started going to war in my early twenties, I began confronting my own mortality, and found myself slowly being funneled towards the great Stoics.

I thank you for your service. I think the Stoics are criminally underread. Yet I am having some mild discomfort accepting such profundities from someone named, ah, fapjacks. Just sayin'.

Profundity is where you find it, not where you look for it.

Re: The Other Half

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Post by mbrock »

DaUR wrote: post #243
derefr wrote: post #235

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> The assumption here is that women nurture themselves because they want to look good, I don't believe that at all. You'll nurture yourself because you'll want to do it, instinctively, without needing any willpower. That wasn't what I was trying to communicate at all. My intended meaning was that women—by wanting to look good, or to seem happy, or to put on one of the numerous other faces people expect women to prese…

> That wasn't what I was trying to communicate at all. My intended meaning was that women—by wanting to look good, or to seem happy, or to put on one of the numerous other faces people expect women to present to the world—are forced to pay attention to their own bodies. I misunderstood that, you're right. About your wider point: you seem to put a lot of importance on societal roles ("expected to", "narratives"), and…

> About your wider point: you seem to put a lot of importance on societal roles ("expected to", "narratives"), and I don't think much of this (if at all) is caused by society rather than self-directed.

Why do you think so?

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Post by fencepost »

Frondo wrote: post #262
fencepost wrote: post #204

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> Why would anyone see a doctor unless they had a health problem? (Or wanted health advice?) Because "sedentary middle-aged American eating a typical American diet" (possibly including "fat" as well) might as well be considered a preexisting condition all by itself, and a simple checkup may catch something that can be addressed before it becomes a hospital visit. Most notable as things to watch out for are high blood…

Interesting. I was one of those stupid men who was immobilized with pain from acute cholecystitis, I went to the ER, and they still did it laparoscopically. I did spend two nights in the hospital (one before the surgery, one after), but I'm surprised that surgery would be considered outpatient under any circumstances. Do they really send people home immediately after putting them under and rooting around in their che…

The only reason my wife's involved an overnight stay was dehydration since she'd been unable to keep much of anything down for a couple days. That said, her surgery was scheduled after a pretty short series of doctor, ultrasound, surgeon, weekend, surgery.

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Post by cellularmitosis »

bleair wrote: post #208

This part fascinated me : "" I waited 5 anxious minutes, and then was bought into a room with two doctors, one of whom turned out to be Dr. Sonny Palmer. Sonny said Georg thought I needed some help, and I’d be checked within a day. I asked if he’d seen the letter with his name on it. He hadn’t. He went and got it. He came back and said I was going to be operated on in an hour. "" You obviously don't want to be rude w…

I've been in the hospital twice in the past year (once to visit my grandfather, once to have my appendix removed), and I was really bothered by the lack of communication. In my grandfather's case, the nurses were bewildered by the fact that his blood pressure varied so wildly between lying down and standing (which causes him to pass out). I finally had to ask them "Surely the doctor told you he has Shy-Drager syndrome, right?" They had no idea that this was normal for him, and will only get worse as he gets older. If it only took me 30 seconds to explain it to them, why couldn't his doctor have done the same.

When I had my appendix removed, I was on a couple of prescription medications, which I brought with me to the hospital to ensure I got the names correct when I informed the front desk clerk as I was admitted. Two days later my nurses had a hissy fit when they discovered that not only was I on prescription medications (this somehow hadn't been communicated), but that I was also administering them myself (apparently a no-no in the hospital).

Apparently no one talks to each other in hospitals.

Re: The Other Half

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Post by mtw »

jrwoodruff wrote: post #34

First job out of high school was working in a department store. One of the sales guys I worked with was Keith. He smoked, liked to drink and go to Disney World. After returning from a Disney World trip, he told me how he spent most of it on the hotel room floor because he 'threw his back out' and had general chest pain. Nothing excruciating, just annoying enough that he wasn't up for hours of walking. His friends tol…

Keith smoked. Smoking increases your risk of heart attack or myocardial infarction, amongst others. There's been a lot of public awareness campaigns on the dangers of smoking and in 2017, I can't believe he wasn't aware of them. Continuing smoking was a conscious decision.
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