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Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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Post by iagooar »

bhouston wrote: post #29
hashkb wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What does this have to do with h GitHub?

JIRA + Bitbucket (and now + Trello) is a very effective competitor to Github among enterprise companies. Github's issue tracker sort of sucks and this hurts it tremendously -- I know as I live with that shitty issue tracker in an enterprise situation.

Yeah, and Bitbucket sucks in any other conceivable way, so I don't see why it should be a competitor other than that they shove it in your face once you want to use JIRA or Confluence.

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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Post by oblio »

iagooar wrote: post #297
arielm wrote: post #277

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I completely agree with the sentiment, but my gut says this acquisition isn't about Trello becoming a part of Atlassian but rather Atlassian trying to venture away from their set of dev tools. Why, you ask? As a recently public company Atlassian knows it'll need to grow beyond developers if they want to continue growing at a healthy rate, and Trello offers that exactly. I believe that's why they paid such a hefty pri…

> As a recently public company Atlassian knows it'll need to grow beyond developers Why is that? Why does a company that is good at something NEED to expand beyond their area of expertise? Is is just me who sees this as American Capitalism™? Wouldn't it be better to try to make their products excellent and attract the many developers who are not using their suite? Why the always constant push to grow at any cost? I'm…

They're public, they need to make money for shareholders.

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Post by nscalf »

SonOfLilit wrote: post #254

Open letter to Atlassian: Trello are an amazing team and an amazing product, and what makes the product so amazing is how domain-agnostic it is. They refuse at all costs to add any feature that helps use Trello in one specific way over others (e.g. lists = stages in task lifetime, cards = tasks; lists = assigned people, cards = tasks; lists = dates, cards = events, ...), and that made Trello equally useful as a Kanba…

This was put perfectly. I didn't realize that this was the reason I used Trello to organize much of my life until I read this. I would find it a bit confusing if they started making this more developer exclusive since they already have their Jira software, which already fills that role. I'm hesitantly optimistic that they see Trello for what it is.

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Post by ggregoire »

shostack wrote: post #266
ggregoire wrote: post #137

Not related at all but I interviewed for Trello in 2016, the meeting was super cool (video call in the browser, nice RH girl apparently very excited about my profile), the job was full remote, they needed help to move from Backbone to React and they have millions of users (!) so I was quite hyped. Then I received an email of refusal from another guy containing only a quote from the CEO. I asked for feedback (probably…

What was the quote?

I just looked at my emails and actually my message was not exactly accurate. I received the refusal from the CEO and this email contained the following phrase:

> sometimes we have to make very painful choices and pass over some extraordinarily promising candidates.

Then I asked for feedback and the next reply from the recruiting team quoted this phrase.

They didn't give me any feedbacks for legal reasons (?).

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Post by bduerst »

mitchty wrote: post #288
sanguy wrote: post #272

This is really bad as Atlassian is like a prize winning show pony -- great marketing and webinars but once you get deeply into the product usage you find all sorts of problems and open issues. BitBucket has been waiting for 2FA for 5 years! Bambo was recently semi-retired going against a lot of users investments. And these are just recent. I would not expect wonderful things for Trello and thankfully it appears they…

I love their response to open issues like: we'd like to be able to delete pull requests. Response: what a silly notion, no Or another one I found recently: we'd like to comment on code that isn't within 10 lines of a changed file. You know, because one line change in file a can impact stuff elsewhere. Or even in another project but the chances of that happening are more slim than a tachyon hitting an atom as it passe…

>atlassian products are 80% of the way there, but the final 20% polish never seems to arrive

This was kind of my synopsis when I looked at implementing them back in 2009. My take was that they built out 80% of the platform and then expected the customers/users to build out the extra 20% for each other.

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Post by VladimirGolovin »

ylecuyer wrote: post #245
kaushalmodi wrote: post #227

I am really glad I never started using Trello for my task organization. It lacked the basic act of marking tasks as Done. I needed to manually drag the done tasks to a 'Done' board. On that note, my hunt for good task organization app led me to Todoist! It's awesome! It has great web and Android apps and great API which I intend to hack at some point to create an emacs interface for it. So glad that Todoist wasn't bo…

For me the best todolist would be like a tree where you would be able to divide tasks into sub tasks and see every thing in one screen. I haven't been able to find such app so as for now I'm stuck with pen and paper

Have you tried Workflowy?

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Post by kstrauser »

omouse wrote: post #295
nilkn wrote: post #202

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My experience with Jira is that it depends very much on the managers and executive team who set it up and create the precedents on how to use it. Jira is so customizable and has so many features that it can be made into a sort of bureaucratic prison that's actively counter-productive for everyone except higher-level managers who just use it to generate countless reports. In the worst case, Jira can be used to institu…

JIRA is so customizable that it brings out the personality of a micro-manager, even in people who are usually not micro-managers. It's interesting to see how a tool used every day can shape thinking and behaviour patterns.

I consider JIRA a code smell: if an organization uses it, I probably won't be satisfied working with them. I don't think it's because of anything especially bad with Atlassian (although I was furious when they removed the ability to edit Confluence in raw mode), as that the managers I least want to work for seem especially attracted to it.

Your comment just illuminated that for me and I think you're right. It's the micromanager's dream, but for good managers it doesn't seem to offer enough over the competition to draw them in. The best I've worked with considered PM tools essentially fungible, and therefore weren't likely to invest in 1) paying for the Atlassian suite or 2) the overhead of getting it up and running.

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Post by disposition2 »

akjainaj wrote: post #164
disposition2 wrote: post #151

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It looks like they have added it now. I wonder if they were slow on updating their site because of Sourcetree, which I personally love (especially since it is a cross-platoform [Mac/Win] GUI client).

No they haven't... I just checked. No syntax highlighting for diffs.

Hmm, they show up for me [1]. That screenshot is an HTML file but I also looked at JS, Python and Markdown and all were showing syntax highlight in diff commits.

1. https://i.imgur.com/Av70r03.png

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