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New MacBook Pro Is Not a Laptop for Developers Anymore

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Re: New MacBook Pro Is Not a Laptop for Developers Anymore

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Post by Szevth »

matwood wrote: post #126
blowski wrote: post #36

I was waiting for the new Macbook Pros as I need to buy a new laptop, and was going to give my old Macbook Pro (2014 model) to my wife. But given that they have nothing of value (I don't care about gimmicks like the new touch bar), I've decided to abandon Mac and go back to Linux. I'm just a typical web developer, running a bunch of virtual machines, and an IDE. Any recommendations? I saw the Dell XPS 15 for around £…

Good luck with HiDPI. It is very application dependent, so I would check what you typically use. From what I have tried and read, macOS handles HiDPI and multi-monitors much better than any other OS out there right now. I'm so used to HiDPI just working on my MBP that I never even realized it was an issue on the other OSes until I started thinking about switching.

This is false. My Ubuntu desktop handles 4K DPI scaling perfectly, while attached to a 1440p with normal scaling as well. On the other hand my 2012 MacBook scales extremely weird when connected to a 4K display through HDMI.

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chairmanwow wrote: post #102
ericjang wrote: post #37

I dislike this post intensely. The opinion comes across as uncharitable, as the author probably has not used this Macbook Pro yet. How can you (alexeysemeney) be so sure? I consider myself a developer, and I almost never use the Fn and ESC keys on my Mac. Everybody uses the computer differently, but I'm pretty sure this is not a deal-breaker for most. One could also argue that the touch bar might lead to innovative d…

Many common applications that developers use have many keybindings that heavily rely upon the Escape key (Vim for sure).

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Post by blowski »

aesthetics1 wrote: post #70
blowski wrote: post #36

I was waiting for the new Macbook Pros as I need to buy a new laptop, and was going to give my old Macbook Pro (2014 model) to my wife. But given that they have nothing of value (I don't care about gimmicks like the new touch bar), I've decided to abandon Mac and go back to Linux. I'm just a typical web developer, running a bunch of virtual machines, and an IDE. Any recommendations? I saw the Dell XPS 15 for around £…

The XPS machines (both the 13 and the 15) are excellent. I haven't found anything else that compares across the board.

I had an XPS 13 in 2008, and was really happy with it. The quality was much higher than most of the Dell laptops I've seen.

Do you know how well they work with Linux?

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Post by sotojuan »

blowski wrote: post #213
kejaed wrote: post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm curious, what is driving the need for a new laptop from a 2014 version?

I don't need a new one, but my wife does as her one is the Macbook Pro from 2009 and is now extremely slow, and the battery lasts about 20 minutes. So I was going to buy a new one for me, and give her my current one. As you say, the 2014 is a great model - I'm using it right now, and it's plenty sufficient for everything I do.

You could get your wife a refurbished MacBook. They're pretty cheap.

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Post by MagnumOpus »

pilif wrote: post #222
chimeracoder wrote: post #165

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> Considering that Apple revises their hardware builds about every four years, it makes sense to move to strictly USB-C now This would make a lot more sense if Apple had switched the iPhone to USB-C as well. That way, you really could just use one cable for everything . Instead, you need three separate charger for your iPhone, Macbook Pro, and Apple Watch. Oh, and the iPhone comes with lightning-USB- A cables, which…

>This would make a lot more sense if Apple had switched the iPhone to USB-C as well yes. it would have. And this is the actual problem there. Lightning is just another way of controlling their walled-garden around iOS and I really hate it for that reason. But that's beside the point of the port choice of the new Macs: The phones always have a lightning port, so the cable connecting to them will always have a lighting…

> [USB-C] in-fact until yesterday was only supported by one single machine made by Apple

Really, have a look at this [1] half-year-old list of 10 non-Apple laptops that have USB-C ports... Of course pretty much all of these have USB-A ports too, because their manufacturers don't have a blind following and actually have to compete with each other.

[1] http://windowsreport.com/usb-c-laptops/

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Post by dasil003 »

RobertDeNiro wrote: post #138
echelon wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm a vim user. Why in the world did they remove ESC? That's one of my most frequently used keys. And no, I don't think remapping it is a great idea. If I had to use this for work I would protest.

The answer is simple. Apple doesn't think you should use VIM. You need to move on to more modern methods of programming.

"Modernize your methods!" says Robert DeNiro, an actor who's been phoning it in since the late 90s.

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Post by agentultra »

TACIXAT wrote: post #192
laddng wrote: post #18

I've had a good, satisfying run with MacBook Pros, but now I'm stepping off the Apple train. I understand that Apple is trying to go in a new direction with the new MacBook Pros, and I won't complain about it. I am now simply moving to an Arch Linux setup on an old Lenovo Thinkpad Carbon X1 to continue living inside the Terminal.

I really feel most Linux distros were made for developers and development. Whenever I try to do things on Windows and OSX I get insanely frustrated with the amount of friction. It's nice to have an OS that trusts you and lets you make mistakes.

I had that problem with Linux where I wanted to be able to seamlessly use my Wacom pad with a decent graphics editing suite... oops no, it's terrible. Mainly because the environment for these tools is proprietary and there aren't enough graphics people in the Linux market to support it as a platform.

So... mac it still is. Windows is looking better these days.

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