The Devastating Effect of Ad-Blockers for Guru3D.com

Post by ionised » Mon, Nov 02, 2015, 10:54 AM UTC

mozumder wrote: post #188

robgibbons wrote: post #135

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I don't need to justify my right to privacy. All you need to know is that I don't want my browsing habits tracked and correlated across virtually every site I visit, by a small handful of companies that have nothing to do with the content I am seeking. The burden is not on me to justify why I disagree with these practices.

The burden is on you to justify your right to privacy. Otherwise it just makes you look bad, as if you're trying to defend indefensible actions. Remember, you're visiting THEIR sites. They aren't visiting your sites. They have something you want when you visit their sites, and you have to offer something in return. If you're unable to justify yourself, then companies (both advertisers and media publishers) will proce…

Post by [deleted] » Mon, Nov 02, 2015, 3:17 PM UTC

mozumder wrote: post #301

M2Ys4U wrote: post #293

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>The burden is on you to justify your right to privacy. Privacy is a human right. I am the only one who gets to decide what information I divulge about myself, except in the very small set of circumstances where my right to privacy has to be balanced against the human rights of others. Nobody should ever have to justify one's right to privacy.

> Nobody should ever have to justify one's right to privacy. You always need to justify you rights, since you should never assume those with power over you - the ones that grant you your rights - are willing to do that. There is no such thing as natural rights.

Post by tehmaco » Mon, Nov 02, 2015, 3:52 PM UTC

cm2187 wrote: post #286

jessaustin wrote: post #249

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If they're talking to a central ad server they can tell it what cookies they're seeing.

Yes but how do you correlate the two cookies? I go on site abc.com, which gives me the cookie abc:111 Then I go on xyz.com which gives me the cookie xyz:222 Because of the same origin policy, xyz.com can't access the cookies set by abc.com. Abc and xyz can communicate as much as they want on the server side, they will not be able to tell that abc:111 and xyz:222 are the same user (absent additional information: brows…

Post by RUG3Y » Mon, Nov 02, 2015, 4:16 PM UTC

pdkl95 wrote: post #295

imgabe wrote: post #137

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Most content is worthless. Content that has actual monetary value to someone, market research data for instance, has no trouble finding people willing to pay for it. The fact is most "news" and other article type sites do not serve a purpose other than satisfying some idle curiosity or passing time. Very little of it has a material impact on anyone's day to day life. The purpose can easily be filled by some alternate…

> Most content is worthless. I would suggest that quite a bit of so-called "content" is actually negative value . Consumption of this negative value is done for a variety of reasons (paying a minor cost for an indirect social benefit, for example ("I wanted to participate when people talk about #{current_pop_culture}")). These negative values are only worthwhile when the cost is small enough, and we've recently seen…

Post by RUG3Y » Mon, Nov 02, 2015, 4:21 PM UTC

dmethvin wrote: post #227

bad_user wrote: post #181

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You are probably a middle-class caucasian male from a western country. I can make that assumption because this willingness to pay that you're talking about cannot be a reality for the poor or for citizens of underdeveloped countries, or in other words ... the majority.

...and this is the unspoken truth of advertising. There is no reason for advertisers to reach that majority who cannot or will not pay for whatever is being advertised. However the publishers resent ad blockers because they reduce the pool and that's a bad thing in a world where cost-per-impression is common, or even cost-per-click where inadvertent clicks can make money. At the bottom of it all though, there need to…