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Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today

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Re: Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today

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Post by gambiting »

deciplex wrote: post #3

Reminder that Microsoft installed adware on Windows 7/8 machines to encourage users to upgrade to Windows 10. Even if you hid the update from Windows Update, they un-hid it and reinstalled at least once that I know of. Don't reward this behavior by buying Windows 10. Or at least delay the purchase as long as possible.

It's no different than Windows Update telling you that there is a new update available, except that this time it's an update of the entire operating system to a new version. Calling it "adware" is a stretch of a largest magnitude.

Re: Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today

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Post by acqq »

shocks wrote: post #24
sergiotapia wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you not use VLC or MPC?

You can use VLC. After your comment, I wasn't sure why that was the case. Apparently: > Neither French law nor European conventions recognize software as patentable (see French section below). Therefore, software patents licenses do not apply on VideoLAN software. From http://www.videolan.org/legal.html

But see also this (on the same page) if you're using VLC in the US:

"libdvdcss

libdvdcss is a library that can find and guess keys from a DVD in order to decrypt it. This method is authorized by a French law decision CE 10e et 9e sous­sect., 16 juillet 2008, n° 301843 on interoperability.

NB: In the USA, you should check out the US Copyright Office decision that allows circumvention in some cases."

Re: Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today

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Post by sergiotapia »

acqq wrote: post #21
sergiotapia wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you not use VLC or MPC?

It's not about what "can" be done, you can also install the pirated software too, the thing is, by buying legally Windows 7 or Windows 8 Media Pack or Ultimate I have really paid the DVD playback functionality to Microsoft as well as the other features I've mentioned. Also read about the legality aspects of the Microsoft's DVD solutions up to now and of the open-source DVD players: http://www.zdnet.com/article/if-vlc…

I don't get it... are you complaining that you were revoked a license to a software that came bundled with windows?

Re: Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today

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Post by batou »

I got the upgrade from 8.1 Pro last night:

1. The OOBE experience ran twice. It rebooted half way through the first one to apply updates and then I had to do it all again.

2. It lost the product key and won't activate even though this is a genuine copy from MSDN. I guess I have to wait for a key from MSDN later today. Not end of the world but a pain point. If it isn't activated, hardly anything works now.

3. However that's all pointless as it hangs solid after 3-5 minutes reliably. That's not enough time to even roll a single windows update in so I'm shafted.

This is a rock solid Lenovo X201 that has never had a single problem with any Windows release. It hasn't crashed once since I bought it new.

Not impressed. Spent an hour rolling it back.

I imagine, considering this was quality well tested hardware, that this is going to be nothing but hell for people. If even 1% of people have this experience, the media will blow big time and I'd hope that they do.

Edit: on my Sony VPC-J1 AOI machine that fails with "Windows 10 upgrade failed" after pissing around for an hour. At least that didn't hose the machine.

Re: Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today

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Post by shocks »

acqq wrote: post #34
shocks wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can use VLC. After your comment, I wasn't sure why that was the case. Apparently: > Neither French law nor European conventions recognize software as patentable (see French section below). Therefore, software patents licenses do not apply on VideoLAN software. From http://www.videolan.org/legal.html

But see also this (on the same page) if you're using VLC in the US: "libdvdcss libdvdcss is a library that can find and guess keys from a DVD in order to decrypt it. This method is authorized by a French law decision CE 10e et 9e sous­sect., 16 juillet 2008, n° 301843 on interoperability. NB: In the USA, you should check out the US Copyright Office decision that allows circumvention in some cases. "

Ah interesting! I missed that.

Re: Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today

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Post by frou_dh »

0xffffabcd wrote: post #30
deciplex wrote: post #3

Reminder that Microsoft installed adware on Windows 7/8 machines to encourage users to upgrade to Windows 10. Even if you hid the update from Windows Update, they un-hid it and reinstalled at least once that I know of. Don't reward this behavior by buying Windows 10. Or at least delay the purchase as long as possible.

Upgrade notification is now adware? are you serious? You don't even have to pay for the upgrade and you'll have a lot to gain from it and for us developers, it's a good thing aswell since it might reduce the number of old IEs/plateforms we have to support. I expected more from an HN user..

Is it a "notification" or a longterm limpet on the hull? I looked at a relative's W7 machine and there was a promotional application ("GWX" - Get Windows X?) running permanently with no apparent way to decline its offer or uninstall it.
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