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Re: New Court Evidence Reveals Hollywood’s Plan to Smear Google

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Post by tomjen3 » Tue, Jul 28, 2015, 9:31 AM UTC

te_chris wrote: post #20

curiousjorge wrote: post #18

Hollywood is slowly decaying into irrelevance. This is a sign that they know their days are numbered. People are not going stop pirating, hell the whining and draconian measures to get people to stop pirating their movies makes me want to pirate the shit out of it even more. Plenty of video services like netflix, amazon prime are producing their own quality tv shows that exceed most of the crap movies we get. Everyth…

What? This is bullshit. Where does the most popular television abd film content come from? Hollywood - including the Netflix only stuff.

Can we consider Game of Thrones to be the most popular tv show currently?

From the wiki: >Filmed in a Belfast studio and on location elsewhere in Northern Ireland, Croatia, Iceland, Morocco, Spain, Malta, Scotland, and the United States,

So it does not come from Hollywood. HBO is owned by Time Werner, but operate independently. So neither the physical production place nor the company that made it screams hollywood.

As for the Netflix only stuff, it is owned by Netflix.

Re: New Court Evidence Reveals Hollywood’s Plan to Smear Google

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Post by jacquesm » Tue, Jul 28, 2015, 9:34 AM UTC

zamalek wrote: post #29

nerdy wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because the MPAA is often the larger entity in court, and with leverage (copyright law). They have a long, litigious history from DMCA takedowns & expansion to SOPA. They don't mind suing individuals, wholesale [1]. In this particular case it's pretty clear the MPAA and the AG were both out of bounds. Why would the AG, the top lawyer for the state government (and supposedly for the people), need to help the MPAA with…

> editorial suggesting slumping stock prices Is this not fraudulent?

It'd be very nice if the SEC jumped in.

Re: New Court Evidence Reveals Hollywood’s Plan to Smear Google

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Post by onli » Tue, Jul 28, 2015, 9:35 AM UTC

zamalek wrote: post #29

nerdy wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because the MPAA is often the larger entity in court, and with leverage (copyright law). They have a long, litigious history from DMCA takedowns & expansion to SOPA. They don't mind suing individuals, wholesale [1]. In this particular case it's pretty clear the MPAA and the AG were both out of bounds. Why would the AG, the top lawyer for the state government (and supposedly for the people), need to help the MPAA with…

> editorial suggesting slumping stock prices Is this not fraudulent?

Yeah, of course it is. That is the point.

Re: New Court Evidence Reveals Hollywood’s Plan to Smear Google

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Post by TeMPOraL » Tue, Jul 28, 2015, 9:42 AM UTC

CmonDev wrote: post #26

Oletros wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure if serious

Tax dodging, conspiracy to suppress salaries, non-meritocratic compensation policies - the list goes on.

> non-meritocratic compensation policies

I'm yet to find a company which you couldn't accuse of that. The truth about humans is, no matter what your way of determining rewards are, there will always be someone to complain that they deserve more and is being treated unjustly.

Re: New Court Evidence Reveals Hollywood’s Plan to Smear Google

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Post by ucaetano » Tue, Jul 28, 2015, 9:45 AM UTC

tomjen3 wrote: post #31

te_chris wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What? This is bullshit. Where does the most popular television abd film content come from? Hollywood - including the Netflix only stuff.

Can we consider Game of Thrones to be the most popular tv show currently? From the wiki: >Filmed in a Belfast studio and on location elsewhere in Northern Ireland, Croatia, Iceland, Morocco, Spain, Malta, Scotland, and the United States, So it does not come from Hollywood. HBO is owned by Time Werner, but operate independently. So neither the physical production place nor the company that made it screams hollywood. A…

Filmed on location doesn't mean not from Hollywood. Hollywood isn't just the actual physical sets in LA, it's the entire industry.

HoC, GoT, all come from Hollywood. Heck, even GRRM was a screenwriter for Hollywood. The creators of GoT are also from Hollywood (Troy, Kite Runner, the awful X-Men Origins: Wolverine, etc.) and the show is run by Warner-owned HBO.

Re: New Court Evidence Reveals Hollywood’s Plan to Smear Google

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Post by icebraining » Tue, Jul 28, 2015, 9:51 AM UTC

te_chris wrote: post #20

curiousjorge wrote: post #18

Hollywood is slowly decaying into irrelevance. This is a sign that they know their days are numbered. People are not going stop pirating, hell the whining and draconian measures to get people to stop pirating their movies makes me want to pirate the shit out of it even more. Plenty of video services like netflix, amazon prime are producing their own quality tv shows that exceed most of the crap movies we get. Everyth…

What? This is bullshit. Where does the most popular television abd film content come from? Hollywood - including the Netflix only stuff.

By Hollywood, people here mean the big studios/distributors, that is, the companies who provide the cash, not the production companies that film the stuff.

Re: New Court Evidence Reveals Hollywood’s Plan to Smear Google

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Post by zamalek » Tue, Jul 28, 2015, 9:53 AM UTC

onli wrote: post #33

zamalek wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> editorial suggesting slumping stock prices Is this not fraudulent?

Yeah, of course it is. That is the point.

The reason I doubted is because Google are using the "MPAA is targeting us" attack (subjective at best) instead of taking them to the cleaners with stock market manipulation (written law with precedent). This means that I must be missing something and possibly there is a subtle reason why this isn't stock market manipulation.

At least the article makes it sound like the stock manipulation is ancillary to Google's offense.

Re: New Court Evidence Reveals Hollywood’s Plan to Smear Google

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Post by tremon » Tue, Jul 28, 2015, 9:53 AM UTC

te_chris wrote: post #20

curiousjorge wrote: post #18

Hollywood is slowly decaying into irrelevance. This is a sign that they know their days are numbered. People are not going stop pirating, hell the whining and draconian measures to get people to stop pirating their movies makes me want to pirate the shit out of it even more. Plenty of video services like netflix, amazon prime are producing their own quality tv shows that exceed most of the crap movies we get. Everyth…

What? This is bullshit. Where does the most popular television abd film content come from? Hollywood - including the Netflix only stuff.

> Where does the most popular television [and] film content come from?

Elstree.

Re: New Court Evidence Reveals Hollywood’s Plan to Smear Google

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Post by gcb0 » Tue, Jul 28, 2015, 10:12 AM UTC

tomjen3 wrote: post #31

te_chris wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What? This is bullshit. Where does the most popular television abd film content come from? Hollywood - including the Netflix only stuff.

Can we consider Game of Thrones to be the most popular tv show currently? From the wiki: >Filmed in a Belfast studio and on location elsewhere in Northern Ireland, Croatia, Iceland, Morocco, Spain, Malta, Scotland, and the United States, So it does not come from Hollywood. HBO is owned by Time Werner, but operate independently. So neither the physical production place nor the company that made it screams hollywood. A…

the hobbit was filmed on new Zealand... by Hollywood. who gave NZ a new thematic airport (it's like entering the shire) and in exchange for the airport and the movie production taxes got the head of kim dotcom on a tray.

Re: New Court Evidence Reveals Hollywood’s Plan to Smear Google

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Post by gcb0 » Tue, Jul 28, 2015, 10:14 AM UTC

zamalek wrote: post #37

onli wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, of course it is. That is the point.

The reason I doubted is because Google are using the "MPAA is targeting us" attack (subjective at best) instead of taking them to the cleaners with stock market manipulation (written law with precedent). This means that I must be missing something and possibly there is a subtle reason why this isn't stock market manipulation. At least the article makes it sound like the stock manipulation is ancillary to Google's off…

because that's easy to move to them. want more gray area on stock manipulation when you give answers to "will Sony stock rise this month"?