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We don’t trust drinking fountains anymore, and that’s bad for our health

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Re: We don’t trust drinking fountains anymore, and that’s bad for our health

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When I was elementary school age I saw some older kids at the park taking turns peeing on a drinking fountain (and laughing). I have used public drinking fountains since, but only when the need was severe. There has to be a better option.

Construct outdoor drinking fountains out of materials that naturally resist bacteria.

And if that doesn't work, what about just adding antibiotics to the water supply? It works for cows....

Re: We don’t trust drinking fountains anymore, and that’s bad for our health

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Let's start with the assumption (not necessarily true) that one who drinks from a public water fountain consumes significantly more germs than one who drinks bottled water. Is this even a bad thing? I would think that this regular exposure could help strengthen the immune system. I'm personally uncertain if anything like this is backed by research.

When I was elementary school age I saw some older kids at the park taking turns peeing on a drinking fountain (and laughing). I have used public drinking fountains since, but only when the need was severe. There has to be a better option.

What they did is gross and immature and sure there's the ick factor, but the water flows one-way out of the fountain and you don't have to touch it to drink.

Re: We don’t trust drinking fountains anymore, and that’s bad for our health

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When I first came to US, I didn't mind drinking public fountain. But one day, I walked by one and a dog was drinking from it, licking all over it in the process. From that day onward, I stopped. Still, I have to wonder: is that reasonable of me? And otherwise, is it expected to let your pet sharing the same water source with human?

Of course it's reasonable of you. The burden of proof is on the water fountain (or more specifically, the designers of the water fountain) as to whether drinking from it is safe. This is not a problem with being overly cautious. This is a problem with an antiquated design.

The design is not antiquated; actually it's pretty brilliant. However, if the water pressure is insufficient, the main protection doesn't work. And that's distressingly common.

Re: We don’t trust drinking fountains anymore, and that’s bad for our health

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I've always found it kind of funny that in "capitalist" US, there is free water all over the place. It's one of my favorite things to drink good, clean water for free in Portland after getting off a long flight from Europe. In "socialist" Europe, you're pretty much stuck with expensive bottled water in places like airports, unless you have a cup or something and don't mind drinking from the bathroom faucets. OTOH, on…

>unless you have a cup or something and don't mind drinking from the bathroom faucets.

To my understanding, this is no different than using the tap from your kitchen sink. It still comes from pipes and tap water is tap water. It's mostly a mental thing.

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I grew up in LA, where water is scarce, and valued. Water fountains are around, but they have valves, which break, stick, or otherwise cause problems. When I lived in Chicago, I was shocked to see that their water fountains have no valves: They run full flow 24x7. Given the weather (frozen pipes) and the water resources available to Chicago (Lake Michigan), it makes sense for them to do it this way, but I had a lot o…

I've never heard of such a thing. That would be so strange to see.

Portland, Oregon has them all over:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benson_Bubbler

Re: We don’t trust drinking fountains anymore, and that’s bad for our health

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When I first came to US, I didn't mind drinking public fountain. But one day, I walked by one and a dog was drinking from it, licking all over it in the process. From that day onward, I stopped. Still, I have to wonder: is that reasonable of me? And otherwise, is it expected to let your pet sharing the same water source with human?

Dog parks usually have double fountains, one near the ground for dogs and a taller one that's more accessible for humans.

I don't blame you for feeling a bit disgusted, but it's possible that the salivary/gut bacteria of dogs might actually confer a benefit on humans' immune systems. There's a study underway at the University of Arizona to investigate this: http://www.uadogstudy.org/thestudy/

Dogs stereotypically have bad breath but a healthy dog on a healthy diet should smell OK. There are variations within breeds (and probably within humans in how those scents are perceived). Many dogs like to give kisses to express affection so if you get a dog in the future it's something you'll quickly get used to.

Re: We don’t trust drinking fountains anymore, and that’s bad for our health

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I grew up in LA, where water is scarce, and valued. Water fountains are around, but they have valves, which break, stick, or otherwise cause problems. When I lived in Chicago, I was shocked to see that their water fountains have no valves: They run full flow 24x7. Given the weather (frozen pipes) and the water resources available to Chicago (Lake Michigan), it makes sense for them to do it this way, but I had a lot o…

Ditto rome. It just comes out of the wall in places.

Re: We don’t trust drinking fountains anymore, and that’s bad for our health

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post #28

I've always found it kind of funny that in "capitalist" US, there is free water all over the place. It's one of my favorite things to drink good, clean water for free in Portland after getting off a long flight from Europe. In "socialist" Europe, you're pretty much stuck with expensive bottled water in places like airports, unless you have a cup or something and don't mind drinking from the bathroom faucets. OTOH, on…

>unless you have a cup or something and don't mind drinking from the bathroom faucets. To my understanding, this is no different than using the tap from your kitchen sink. It still comes from pipes and tap water is tap water. It's mostly a mental thing.

Yeah, I'm sure the water's ok there, it's just kind of a PITA to even get at it. Sometimes, too, it comes out at some kind of default warm temperature and you can't change it.

Re: We don’t trust drinking fountains anymore, and that’s bad for our health

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've never heard of such a thing. That would be so strange to see.

Portland, Oregon has them all over: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benson_Bubbler

Indeed! I haven't seen a "normal" drinking fountain in Portland in ages.

That said, I have seen homeless people do unspeakable things with them, so my trust is rattled.

Re: We don’t trust drinking fountains anymore, and that’s bad for our health

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When I first came to US, I didn't mind drinking public fountain. But one day, I walked by one and a dog was drinking from it, licking all over it in the process. From that day onward, I stopped. Still, I have to wonder: is that reasonable of me? And otherwise, is it expected to let your pet sharing the same water source with human?

I've seen a friend French-kiss his dog (he relished grossing other people out) and he didn't seem worse for it. Of course I wouldn't do it myself, but it can't be as bad as you think it might be.
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