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Re: Show HN: Reddit alternative – decentralized social news site, no censorship

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Post by x0 » Thu, Jun 25, 2015, 3:56 AM UTC

frizbee wrote: post #18

koko775 wrote: post #10

No censorship as in no moderation? No thanks. No censorship as in no punishing the stalking and threatening of others? Also no thanks. I want free speech where people are free with their speech, not unrestrained speech (specifically) where people feel free to hurt others.

Hi, Just to clarify, the owners of particular playlist servers can moderate them as they choose. The difference is that because of the decentralization aspect, it is not chosen by a central entity.

If this website is another reaction to reddit, you're only going to attract the absolute dregs of that site — /r/fatpeoplehate, the pedophiles, the gamergaters, etc.

If someone creates a Frizbee server full of child abuse material, and it becomes popular, and is always on the front page, what would you do?

Also, I made a comment on Frizbee that consisted of `[wow](file:///etc/passwd)`, and it let me post it. You probably want to whitelist a few schemes.

Re: Show HN: Reddit alternative – decentralized social news site, no censorship

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Post by Natsu » Thu, Jun 25, 2015, 3:56 AM UTC

minimaxir wrote: post #6

Let's look at what happened to Voat. After people claimed Reddit was censoring users by banning /r/fatpeoplehate, the more unsavory users flocked to Voat, a blatant Reddit clone. As you would expect, said unsavory people posted unsavory content. Said unsavory content, while free and uncensored, was not legal , and that causes problems: http://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/3avyem/voat_... Said issues caused…

Did I miss a post? SRD seems to say that Paypal terminated their account. I don't see involvement by law enforcement, unless I missed a post?

Or did they refuse to take it down? I thought the CDA protected hosts as long as they took it down when notified? But I also haven't been following this closely and I don't know where Voat is (was?) hosted.

Re: Show HN: Reddit alternative – decentralized social news site, no censorship

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Post by x0 » Thu, Jun 25, 2015, 4:01 AM UTC

rtpg wrote: post #17

personjerry wrote: post #4

"We're the only decentralized democratic social aggregator website" I feel like this is not true.

how can a website be decentralized...

Maybe if you spread it across 500 AWS instances

Re: Show HN: Reddit alternative – decentralized social news site, no censorship

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Post by chanux » Thu, Jun 25, 2015, 4:03 AM UTC

lettergram wrote: post #3

I like the idea, but I don't think the UI design is really all that great. For example the upvote button is massive, and I couldn't easily find the comment button at all. Basically, it made me scared to even look at the site... like, "where am I?"

Also.. contrast.

Re: Show HN: Reddit alternative – decentralized social news site, no censorship

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Post by minimaxir » Thu, Jun 25, 2015, 4:04 AM UTC

Natsu wrote: post #32

minimaxir wrote: post #6

Let's look at what happened to Voat. After people claimed Reddit was censoring users by banning /r/fatpeoplehate, the more unsavory users flocked to Voat, a blatant Reddit clone. As you would expect, said unsavory people posted unsavory content. Said unsavory content, while free and uncensored, was not legal , and that causes problems: http://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/3avyem/voat_... Said issues caused…

Did I miss a post? SRD seems to say that Paypal terminated their account. I don't see involvement by law enforcement, unless I missed a post? Or did they refuse to take it down? I thought the CDA protected hosts as long as they took it down when notified? But I also haven't been following this closely and I don't know where Voat is (was?) hosted.

Ah, forgot to include that Voat was earlier shut down by their hosting provider (hosted in Europe) due to the nature of their content: https://voat.co/v/announcements/comments/146757/

They switched to a cloud provider to fix it in the short term.

Re: Show HN: Reddit alternative – decentralized social news site, no censorship

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Post by duncan_bayne » Thu, Jun 25, 2015, 4:05 AM UTC

keedot wrote: post #16

I honestly hope one of these takes off. I don't want to ever go there, I don't take amusement in other people's suffering. But seeing so much outrage on reddit from assholes bitching that they can't be racist/bigoted/loathsome on a private forum screaming about freedom of speech which belies their own ignorance makes me long for the days of gopher. I find it repugnant, and I'm glad to live in a country where I'm free…

"I'm glad to live in a country where I'm free to say anything, but hate speech is prosecuted."

I'm going to be optimistic for the future of humanity, and assume that was a (masterful) troll.

Re: Show HN: Reddit alternative – decentralized social news site, no censorship

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Post by jedberg » Thu, Jun 25, 2015, 4:06 AM UTC

The top post as I write this: "Delete your cookie and upvote forever".

Re: Show HN: Reddit alternative – decentralized social news site, no censorship

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Post by bhouston » Thu, Jun 25, 2015, 4:13 AM UTC

minimaxir wrote: post #35

Natsu wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did I miss a post? SRD seems to say that Paypal terminated their account. I don't see involvement by law enforcement, unless I missed a post? Or did they refuse to take it down? I thought the CDA protected hosts as long as they took it down when notified? But I also haven't been following this closely and I don't know where Voat is (was?) hosted.

Ah, forgot to include that Voat was earlier shut down by their hosting provider (hosted in Europe) due to the nature of their content: https://voat.co/v/announcements/comments/146757/ They switched to a cloud provider to fix it in the short term.

That is because voat.co has porn like Reddit does and most hosting providers do not allow that.

Re: Show HN: Reddit alternative – decentralized social news site, no censorship

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Post by bhouston » Thu, Jun 25, 2015, 4:15 AM UTC

minimaxir wrote: post #6

Let's look at what happened to Voat. After people claimed Reddit was censoring users by banning /r/fatpeoplehate, the more unsavory users flocked to Voat, a blatant Reddit clone. As you would expect, said unsavory people posted unsavory content. Said unsavory content, while free and uncensored, was not legal , and that causes problems: http://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/3avyem/voat_... Said issues caused…

Diss Voat.co as much as you want, but so far Voat.co is actually a pretty huge success: http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/voat.co

Re: Show HN: Reddit alternative – decentralized social news site, no censorship

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Post by jaywunder » Thu, Jun 25, 2015, 4:16 AM UTC

lettergram wrote: post #3

I like the idea, but I don't think the UI design is really all that great. For example the upvote button is massive, and I couldn't easily find the comment button at all. Basically, it made me scared to even look at the site... like, "where am I?"

All the buttons get squished together on mobile too