We need to rethink employee compensation
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Re: We need to rethink employee compensation
#32Interesting article but it fails to mention a significant source of liquidity for startup shares (both currently and historically) : Acquisition by a publicly traded company. IPO isn't the only way to obtain liquidity, but what's interesting is just like companies are shunning IPO they are also shunning acquisition. We don't normally get to know about failed acquisition offers but Snapchat's $3bn offer by Facebook is…
Re: We need to rethink employee compensation
#33"When shares can only be sold in private transactions on secondary markets, and, increasingly can only be sold with the consent of the company, the options are actually worth less." There's no space in the middle of "worthless" ;)
that is the least of the article's problem. The whole premise is flawed.
Re: We need to rethink employee compensation
#34Is it "We should pay people more?"
But isn't that really a question of whether or not you can find people who will work for the salary your offering? If you can't you raise what your willing to pay until you find someone who will right?
Or is it "We should make options always remunerative?"
In which case they aren't really options are they? They are just salary so why not just switch to a fixed + variable salary system like so many folks do. Heck you could even go all pay to perform like sales folks have been paid for ages, "Get this code done, you get paid, don't you don't." I personally don't think that incents the best choices but it can motivate.
If you want to write into your corporate by laws that every round of funding includes a 10% of the shares in the funding must come from employees common stock, and you always divide by 'n' (the number of employees that want to participate) the amount of stock they can contribute, well that is ok, except your converting common to preferred in that case and the SEC is going to ask a lot of questions about that.
There is the perception that founders of unicorns are rich, but trust me, they aren't, what they are is "rich on paper" and when they can't raise any more money and they are running out of cash on hand, the founders stock is going to be worth just as much as the employee's stock, which is near 0. So it will all even out. There are a lot of people who were working in the Bay Area during the 90s (and I'm one of them) that were multi-millionaires on paper at some point, and that same paper because worthless sometime later before it could be converted into cash. Did I "lose" 12 million dollars? No, of course not. I never had 12 million dollars, what I had was a concatenation of increasingly improbable if statements which if the 'true' path was followed to the end, could be converted into $12M. Since not all of those if statements resolved true, the actual result was about $83,000. Lots and lots of people had the same sort of experience.
Aaron, if you're reading, what problem are you trying to solve?
Re: We need to rethink employee compensation
#35In this market, I tend to think of options as incentives, and not as replacements for salary. Salary gets me in the door and work hard, great people and culture make me want to be there and evangelize, and options incentivize me to work my ass off. (I'd work my ass off without options, but the options really make it easy to say "I will do everything in my power to make this succeed" instead of "I'd rather go spend ti…
I tend to think of options as worthless, until they vest. Which is too far in the future to count on. Pay me money. That's actually useful.
Apparently companies saw all the employees getting rich from private companies like Palantir and Facebook pre-IPO and considered that a problem to be solved. Check your contract, you probably don't "own" the stock you think you do.
Re: We need to rethink employee compensation
#36Not sure that this is the best opening argument here. With things like the JOBS Act passing, Reg A+ and such getting off the ground, my hypothesis is that we'll see an acceleration in the rate at which companies are able to get to the IPO stage. If anything, in the short / near-term future, we'll see an increase in value of paper. The whole point of offering equity to shareholders and stakeholders is to have people (ownership theory) who are rooting for and/or willing to work toward group success.
The problem, of course, is that executives at far too many companies use equity like a dangling carrot... demanding more than reasonable time for even a basic ROI for the people whose risks are the riskiest (early employees).
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#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
I tend to think of options as worthless, until they vest. Which is too far in the future to count on. Pay me money. That's actually useful.
But even if you're fully vested, if you can't sell your shares, they're essentially worthless (technically the term is probably "illiquid asset"). Until there's an "event" (IPO, acquisition, probably more), they can't be turned into real money.
Re: We need to rethink employee compensation
#38How many VC backed startups get to that sort of valuation without going public? At the $1bn mark, globally, there are 98[1]. I imagine it's possible there are 50 times that number at $0.5bn, but that's still a pretty small number out of all the startups there are. To fix compensation we need things that are going to move the needle even for relatively small companies.
Re: We need to rethink employee compensation
#39In this market, I tend to think of options as incentives, and not as replacements for salary. Salary gets me in the door and work hard, great people and culture make me want to be there and evangelize, and options incentivize me to work my ass off. (I'd work my ass off without options, but the options really make it easy to say "I will do everything in my power to make this succeed" instead of "I'd rather go spend ti…
I wonder what the odds are that Mr. CEO was drawing an even crappier salary than what he offered you, since he no doubt had even more equity.
It's similar to people who don't take vacation and think it puts them on the moral high ground.
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#40I realize this is somewhat trolling, but like Benedict Evans joked in the recent a16z podcast on this topic traditionally that's a process called... IPOing.
http://a16z.com/2015/06/17/a16z-podcast-the-rise-of-the-quas...