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Re: Programmer search engine

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Won't this have the same problem as linkedin, programmers will delist themselves when they started getting daily calls from desperate recruiters ?

That probably happens with Stack Overflow anyway, but only people with the JobHunting bit set will come up in search results.

Re: Programmer search engine

#32

In the spirit of XKCD Explained: Joel Spolsky thinks we should all hire people who regularly use his software. He thinks those people are cool and he really likes how their time, effort and reputation on his site are something they can sell to recruiters for additional revenue. This is literally his dream come true.

That's the story ... explained much the original article.

It's only a very, very roughly a programmer-search engine. It's much more an extension of the stackoverflow community.

Re: Programmer search engine

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In the spirit of XKCD Explained: Joel Spolsky thinks we should all hire people who regularly use his software. He thinks those people are cool and he really likes how their time, effort and reputation on his site are something they can sell to recruiters for additional revenue. This is literally his dream come true.

Joel Spolsky thinks we should all hire people who regularly use his software.

I think you have this characterized a bit wrong - he thinks that people that use his website would make for good job candidates.

Re: Programmer search engine

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post #11

Technical recruiters make ridiculous amounts of money for moving people between companies. If this is successful it will be very lucrative for FogCreek.

But that's because traditional recruiters usually take a % of the person's salary. Stackoverflow only charges a subscription fee for searching the database so they probably won't make as much. If you are a hiring manager, you can test-drive our search interface any time and get an idea of how many matches you'll find. No surprises here. But if you'd like to view candidate details and make contact, you'll need a subsc…

Perhaps it will be so lucrative because employers will get sick of paying percentages of salaries in recruiter's fees and so many of them will sign up for this more-modest subscription fee?

Re: Programmer search engine

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post #20

Won't this have the same problem as linkedin, programmers will delist themselves when they started getting daily calls from desperate recruiters ?

Stack Overflow charges quite a bit of money for the right to search for candidates (plans range from $500 for one week access to $5000 for a year) so that should limit the number of inquiries.

Also, you can easily remove yourself from the search results.

Re: Programmer search engine

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post #19

I'm too lazy to look at the site, but I'm wondering how they are solving the problem of people forgetting/not bothering to uncheck the "available" option? I suppose if they charge a small fee, people would have an incentive to delist themselves after they find a job.

Who is this a problem for? How is it a problem?

Re: Programmer search engine

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post #19

I'm too lazy to look at the site, but I'm wondering how they are solving the problem of people forgetting/not bothering to uncheck the "available" option? I suppose if they charge a small fee, people would have an incentive to delist themselves after they find a job.

I suppose if you're still getting phone calls and emails, you'll be reminded to go uncheck the available box.

Re: Programmer search engine

#38
post #29

In the spirit of XKCD Explained: Joel Spolsky thinks we should all hire people who regularly use his software. He thinks those people are cool and he really likes how their time, effort and reputation on his site are something they can sell to recruiters for additional revenue. This is literally his dream come true.

You're right. I wonder if this was part of the plan for stack overflow from the beginning. This is an ingenious way to monetize its existing user base while creating incentives for stack overflow users to keep creating valuable content for free.

It's possible, but people should note he already had a job board at jobs.joelonsoftware.com.

Re: Programmer search engine

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This is interesting Joel is just now discovering this. As the co-founding CTO of Hotjobs.com, we provided this functionality on the very first version of Hotjobs in 1996, and subsequently ended up purchasing Resumix to provide a very in depth technical solution to allow employers this exact functionality you're describing. Of course, we had tens of millions of resumes in every possible industry imaginable all searcha…

Not to take anything away from hotjobs, but I would argue that the real value Stack overflow careers offers is the fact that an employer can not only see your CV, but at least somewhat determine your level of expertise through your stack overflow account/reputation. I imagine Joel believes this has more value then just the data extracted from a resume.

> I would argue that the real value Stack overflow careers offers is the fact that an employer can not only see your CV

What stops people from linking to their stackoverflow accounts? Many people already link their CV to their github accounts.

Re: Programmer search engine

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post #21

This is interesting Joel is just now discovering this. As the co-founding CTO of Hotjobs.com, we provided this functionality on the very first version of Hotjobs in 1996, and subsequently ended up purchasing Resumix to provide a very in depth technical solution to allow employers this exact functionality you're describing. Of course, we had tens of millions of resumes in every possible industry imaginable all searcha…

Not to take anything away from hotjobs, but I would argue that the real value Stack overflow careers offers is the fact that an employer can not only see your CV, but at least somewhat determine your level of expertise through your stack overflow account/reputation. I imagine Joel believes this has more value then just the data extracted from a resume.

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