But change the name of these organizations to "VC firms" or "angel groups" - much better description.
A venture capital firm says it invests in people “pre-idea, pre-team”
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Re: A venture capital firm says it invests in people “pre-idea, pre-team”
#32also, "pre-birth" and "pre-kindergarten"
Well, over 90% of getting funded by VCs is stuff that happens before birth, so yes, that is literally true.
The way to expand this opportunity is not to focus on the first 99.99999% of history, but the next ten years. You add nothing and take significant amounts away from that. I'm sick of your negativity. Here's a fact: I'm not asian, but asians are far more likely to get funded. SO WHAT! How does that change whether I'm taking the time to build something?
Michael go build something. Anyone can call people names. People should downvote your negative comments on sight. Besides being policy here, anyone who is downvoting you is literally creating good in the world. Because you are actively preventing the expansion of a culture of building. We might not have the power to get a sixty year old who had to go work early in life and received no formal education funded, regardless of this person's merits or ideas. But we can - and should, are required to - downvote you, and contribute to a positive culture where in five years, when that person is sixty-five, and has spent the past five years building something, he can be.
[1] the definition of which is that it is not new, not useful, not insightful, and adds absolutely nothing while being negative. Similar to if you said to a commenter: "by the way YOU SUCK at every skill, when compared to Mozart at music". This is undeniably true, he started at the age of four and specialized very hard. It is a comment nobody would disagree with on a literal level. It is also an absolutely worthless comment that adds nothing: the only reason anyone would write it is so that they could say the word "YOU SUCK" and then weasel out of it. Of course you should get downvoted, so hard you delete your comments which add nothing. Go build something, Michael.
Re: A venture capital firm says it invests in people “pre-idea, pre-team”
#33EF solves a real problem in the UK. Our universities don't exhibit anywhere near the same 'entrepreneurial culture' vs the US equivalents (although this is slowly improving - thankfully). We also don't have the big tech companies (google/fb etc) with the means to compete with banks/hedge-funds for the highest quality engineers/PMs. In the US, these institutions serve as natural breeding grounds for startups. Without…
So, in a nutshell, EF is trying to recruit people from different areas who wants to be entrepreneurs, but doesn't have an idea/team, and EF will create suitable teams out of these people and give them money to build some product? I have a question. Who exactly will decide what the product would be?Is this something those people would decide among themselves, or the EF would put them on a particular project idea they…
Their website is actually pretty informative: http://www.joinef.com/our-programme/
Re: A venture capital firm says it invests in people “pre-idea, pre-team”
#34So they give you a couple grand. What other value do they provide? Seems like a bad deal for people who actually have good ideas and can execute.
Most young entrepreneurs who "go it alone" tend to pick up a network of useful contacts - advisors, introducers, investors, corporate buyers, talented potential co-founders/employees etc - over a period of a few years. EF are very good at speeding up that process, so when you're starting your first company you've already got a base of people around you who can provide you with the support and connection you need, without you devoting large portions of your time to it.
It's easy for young entrepreneurs to downplay the importance of that network because there's a selection bias towards confident naivety amongst people who've decided to set up their own company rather than following a safer, more established path (I know I did when I first started), but looking back on it, objectively I'd say joining them is a good idea for almost any graduate entrepreneur.
Having someone who, without any real effort from you, can represent you to a VC from a position of power, make warm introductions to large numbers of angels in your domain, find you really good candidates for early-stage roles in your company, or introduce you to people in big companies who're actively looking to buy products from startups is a blessing you can almost overlook if you've got it but helps you avoid some serious pitfalls.
Re: A venture capital firm says it invests in people “pre-idea, pre-team”
#35I'm at month 3 of the EF process. Happy to answer any questions :-)
Once you get past the headlines, is it more like a course (where you pay tuition) or an incubator (where you commit to a % of your future company in exchange for money)?
(disclaimer: also in the current cohort)
Re: A venture capital firm says it invests in people “pre-idea, pre-team”
#36I'm at month 3 of the EF process. Happy to answer any questions :-)
> pre-idea, pre-team Assuming this was true for you? do you have an idea & team now? How long were you funded/hired without these two in place? Theoretically how long can one last in the program if you dont find these 2? How long have you been burning their cash, have you raised other funds? You could be considered an even Riskier (debatable) investment than the alternate of an actual startup with an MVP actively loo…
After three months, they invest £10000 (in exchange for 8% equity) in all teams that are settled on an idea and seem promising.
There are no fees of any kind.
(disclosure: I'm on the current cohort)
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#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
Once you get past the headlines, is it more like a course (where you pay tuition) or an incubator (where you commit to a % of your future company in exchange for money)?
It's completely the latter. (disclaimer: also in the current cohort)
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#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well, over 90% of getting funded by VCs is stuff that happens before birth, so yes, that is literally true.
Michael, what you've just written is a gratuitously negative comment[1] that adds nothing. Guess what, 99.999% of getting funded happened in Earth's prehistory of 4.5 billion years, at any point during which things could have gone differently and precluded humanity and culture. Out of the remaining 0.001% - 45,000 years - scarcely ten thousand consisted of the establishment of western civilization and only the scant…
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#39Re: A venture capital firm says it invests in people “pre-idea, pre-team”
#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well, over 90% of getting funded by VCs is stuff that happens before birth, so yes, that is literally true.
Michael, what you've just written is a gratuitously negative comment[1] that adds nothing. Guess what, 99.999% of getting funded happened in Earth's prehistory of 4.5 billion years, at any point during which things could have gone differently and precluded humanity and culture. Out of the remaining 0.001% - 45,000 years - scarcely ten thousand consisted of the establishment of western civilization and only the scant…