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Firefox Bugzilla: Remove Pocket Integration

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Re: Firefox Bugzilla: Remove Pocket Integration

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Post by abrowne »

chimeracoder wrote: post #27

Since all of the comments on this page so far seem to be opposed to the integration: I love Firefox's "Reader View". It's the only way that some pages are readable on my desktop or mobile device, because so many websites try to hijack scrolling, insert modal overlays and ads, or do all sorts of things that make it unbelievably frustrating to just read static text . On the other hand, Reader View lacks a sync feature.…

I don't mind using Pocket as the backend, but I want it to work more like Android's Reading List (and the reading list that was available briefly in desktop Nightly).

I want articles to

• be readable (and savable) offline;

• open in Firefox's Reader View, not Pocket's site;

• sync with Android Fx's Reading List, not (just) the Android Pocket app.

Re: Firefox Bugzilla: Remove Pocket Integration

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Post by sp332 »

maqr wrote: post #22

What's the best way to make this more prominent for Mozilla to see? I made a bugzilla account and added my name to the CC list, but is there anything else I can do to help this get more recognition?

It hasn't even been triaged yet. I'd wait to see what the devs' initial response is before worrying that it's not getting attention.

Edit: ah, here we go https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1172126#c2

Re: Firefox Bugzilla: Remove Pocket Integration

#33

Post by cmdrfred »

MisterWebz wrote: post #5

It is so unlike Mozilla to introduce something like that, I ran a virus scan and checked what programs had been installed recently -- I assumed it had been put there in the same way that IE users used to get the Ask Toolbar installed. Exactly how I felt. What the hell were they thinking? I'm generally very supportive of Mozilla, I even supported their initiative to put advertisements on Firefox's start page. But bund…

I always get devoted when I support chrome on here but I think history will prove me right.

Re: Firefox Bugzilla: Remove Pocket Integration

#34

Post by sp332 »

chimeracoder wrote: post #27

Since all of the comments on this page so far seem to be opposed to the integration: I love Firefox's "Reader View". It's the only way that some pages are readable on my desktop or mobile device, because so many websites try to hijack scrolling, insert modal overlays and ads, or do all sorts of things that make it unbelievably frustrating to just read static text . On the other hand, Reader View lacks a sync feature.…

The built-in Reader view is based on code from Readability http://readability.com/ If you install the actual Readability add-on, it has a "Read Later" feature. This addresses abrowne's first two bullet points.

Re: Firefox Bugzilla: Remove Pocket Integration

#35

Post by chimeracoder »

abrowne wrote: post #31
chimeracoder wrote: post #27

Since all of the comments on this page so far seem to be opposed to the integration: I love Firefox's "Reader View". It's the only way that some pages are readable on my desktop or mobile device, because so many websites try to hijack scrolling, insert modal overlays and ads, or do all sorts of things that make it unbelievably frustrating to just read static text . On the other hand, Reader View lacks a sync feature.…

I don't mind using Pocket as the backend, but I want it to work more like Android's Reading List (and the reading list that was available briefly in desktop Nightly). I want articles to • be readable (and savable) offline; • open in Firefox's Reader View, not Pocket's site; • sync with Android Fx's Reading List, not (just) the Android Pocket app.

I want all of those same things too. I imagine that this is just the first step to getting all of those things working, since doing basically any of that well requires sync working. Now that Pocket is providing the sync (which is the hardest part), the rest is much easier to implement.

Re: Firefox Bugzilla: Remove Pocket Integration

#36

Post by me_bx »

scott_karana wrote: post #24

Add yourself to the CC list to endorse this ticket, without cluttering up the thread with needless "I agree" posts! :-)

Too bad I'm reading this after commenting.

I saw the CC list, but I assumed this would subscribe me to email notifications about this bug, which I don't want to receive.

I'd like to fix this, but it seems like cutting-edge bugzilla doesn't have a "delete comment" feature...

Re: Firefox Bugzilla: Remove Pocket Integration

#37

Post by Manishearth »

Albright wrote: post #21
sp332 wrote: post #2

This bug report is not really clear. Does the submitter consider it bloat, or a privacy violation, or what? It should be obvious that the way it appears in Developer Edition (two releases ahead of "release") is not the way it will appear in the final version. This report should be about the way the feature is explained to the user, or about how hard it is to disable the feature, so that it can be improved.

At least in my opinion, it's unnecessary bloat - just like that video chat thing they added a couple months ago. Remember when Firefox, the lean, scrappy browser, first came out and ran circles around the bloated Netscape browser/HTML editor/IM client/mail client/newsreader? The Firefox team seems to have forgotten. If anyone is maintaining a "Firefox: Browser Only Edition" fork, I'd love to know about it so I could…

Neither Hello nor Pocket will add performance bloat AFAICT. Hello leverages existing web features (webrtc), and Pocket I just an API call.

With the customizable UI you can put these things out of sight too.

Firefox does have bloat, but these two are very minor compared to the bloaty bits.

Re: Firefox Bugzilla: Remove Pocket Integration

#38

Post by dblohm7 »

IshKebab wrote: post #20
brador wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Was money on the table to integrate Pocket into Firefox? Like with the default search engine payments Mozilla receives.

Almost certainly.

Mozilla employee here: That is incorrect. There is limited public information available about this deal, but the best quote so far is in this article: http://www.pcworld.com/article/2930532/reading-service-pocke...

Re: Firefox Bugzilla: Remove Pocket Integration

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Post by dblohm7 »

MisterWebz wrote: post #5

It is so unlike Mozilla to introduce something like that, I ran a virus scan and checked what programs had been installed recently -- I assumed it had been put there in the same way that IE users used to get the Ask Toolbar installed. Exactly how I felt. What the hell were they thinking? I'm generally very supportive of Mozilla, I even supported their initiative to put advertisements on Firefox's start page. But bund…

Hello is just a thin wrapper around WebRTC. That's why Chrome can receive Hello calls without an extension. There's barely anything to add on in that case.
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