Would this run faster on a Windows-SDD than on a Mac-mini sloooow HDD?
Graphics performance is often lacking - unaccelerated graphics under virtualization for Mac OS X is the norm. Otherwise, yes.
Install OS X 10.10 Yosemite in VirtualBox
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Re: Install OS X 10.10 Yosemite in VirtualBox
#32It seems the image must be created on an existing OS X installation. Is a pre-baked image portable to virtualbox running on other host OS:es? (Yes I know, Eula yada yada).
I know of some images that are available at The Pirate Bay, but they are only for VMware and also require some kind of patch to the virtualisation software for a reason I do not know.
Re: Install OS X 10.10 Yosemite in VirtualBox
#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes. Those legally binding EULAs with the associated EULA-violations we've constantly heard people getting jailed over. How about you Mac-heads come to terms with Macs being bog standard X86 hardware and OSX being a bog standard X86 OS, and that running a bog standard X86 OS on bog standard X86 hardware is absolutely within everyone's legal right to do? There's nothing special about your hardware nor OS. Get over it.…
What is "proper" Linux?
In retrospect I'll have to say it's bad wording on my part.
I was referring to Linux as a proper, unrestricted Unix-environment.
Re: Install OS X 10.10 Yosemite in VirtualBox
#34It seems the image must be created on an existing OS X installation. Is a pre-baked image portable to virtualbox running on other host OS:es? (Yes I know, Eula yada yada).
I know of some images that are available at The Pirate Bay, but they are only for VMware and also require some kind of patch to the virtualisation software for a reason I do not know.
VMware does not (last time I checked) support (U)EFI boot and OSX relies on this, even though it's an extremely dated EFI version from 2006.
Virtual box support EFI-boot fine, so no patches are needed and OSX can be installed from a normal, unhacked ISO-file.
Basically I'd say this is a shortcoming in VMware and I'm surprised it's still there after all these years.
Re: Install OS X 10.10 Yosemite in VirtualBox
#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
What is "proper" Linux?
In retrospect I'll have to say it's bad wording on my part. I was referring to Linux as a proper, unrestricted Unix-environment.
> I was referring to Linux as a proper, unrestricted Unix-environment
Ironic really, given that OS X is certified UNIX 03, and I don't believe any Linux distribution is.
Re: Install OS X 10.10 Yosemite in VirtualBox
#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
In retrospect I'll have to say it's bad wording on my part. I was referring to Linux as a proper, unrestricted Unix-environment.
> I was referring to Linux as a proper, unrestricted Unix-environment Ironic really, given that OS X is certified UNIX 03, and I don't believe any Linux distribution is.
Being a licenced Unix is a technicality, mostly involving willingness to pay for a badge.
Being a properly free and unrestricted environment to work with and work in is not. That's something concrete, real and has actual value.
Re: Install OS X 10.10 Yosemite in VirtualBox
#37Would this run faster on a Windows-SDD than on a Mac-mini sloooow HDD?
Why don't you replace that Mac Mini HDD with a blazing fast SSD instead?
Because you need multiple types of Torx security screwdrivers and have to literally disassemble the thing 100% (including removing the HSF and pulling out multiple tiny ribbon cables) to get the hard drive out; and it completely voids your warranty to do so. And hopefully you made a USB install stick first, since they don't ship with install media anymore.
I'm sure the next iteration of the Mini will go to 32GB/64GB(+$100)/128GB(+$300) M.2 SSD options, all conveniently soldered onto the mainboard as well.
Re: Install OS X 10.10 Yosemite in VirtualBox
#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
I know of some images that are available at The Pirate Bay, but they are only for VMware and also require some kind of patch to the virtualisation software for a reason I do not know.
VMware does not (last time I checked) support (U)EFI boot and OSX relies on this, even though it's an extremely dated EFI version from 2006. Virtual box support EFI-boot fine, so no patches are needed and OSX can be installed from a normal, unhacked ISO-file. Basically I'd say this is a shortcoming in VMware and I'm surprised it's still there after all these years.
"VMware" is the company, not the product. You can run many versions of OS X as a guest on VMware Fusion and VMware ESXi when the "physical system is an Apple-labeled computer." [1] Installation does not require a hacked ISO or other modified installer however the current ESXi instructions do say to install Mountain Lion first in the VM then install Yosemite on top of it.
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in other countries, the US can activate and kill with drones, their laws have little to legal meaning at all.
Sure, I live in the UK and I live in constant fear of the mighty US drone army. Our laws (a great deal of which predate the existence of the US) have no meaning.
Congratulations, England is an old country.
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> It's not, you're allowed to install OS X in virtual machines granted it is on a apple device. I was with you until you said something about restrictions. No court of law anywhere has said that you running standard X86 code in a standard X86 environment is illegal.
Somehow I imagine you take a rather different stance when it comes to the many aspects of the GPL or AGPL that haven't been tested in court. On those issues the position of the FSF is very much 'illegal till proven otherwise' (that's if you actually succeed in getting Eben Moglen to give a straight answer).
That's one of the most often repeated bits of nonsense regarding the GPL, the FSF has always been more than willing to test these aspects in court it's just that nobody has felt sure enough they would prevail in such a lawsuit that they bothered to follow through on it.
Effectively this is testimony to how well the GPL has been put together from a legal point of view, it is bad contracts, agreements and licenses that are tested in court.