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The case for drinking whole milk

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Re: The case for drinking whole milk

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A case for not drinking any milk: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milk#Criticism

A doctor once told me : cow milk is for calf, look how quickly they add mass.

Should we also stop eating green vegetables?

Passed six months, cows only consume grass, and look how quickly they add mass.

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One more little wrinkle: I don't think I can recall ever seeing semi-skimmed milk priced at a discount to whole milk at retail. Someone's got themselves a nice little earner selling off that removed dairy fat.

Every time I checked, semi-skimmed was at least a few cents cheaper. I only ever checked in Europe though.

There's no difference in price between whole, semi-skimmed (But I think the price in the supermarket has little to do with the cost. It's a staple food that people remember the price of, and which can be used to tempt people to switch supermarket.

Re: The case for drinking whole milk

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A case for not drinking any milk: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milk#Criticism

A doctor once told me : cow milk is for calf, look how quickly they add mass.

Bananas are for monkeys, and just look at how hairy those guys are. Better not risk it.

Re: The case for drinking whole milk

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Strongest case point for drinking whole milk (in my opinion)? It tastes a lot better.

Food habits during the growing years also contribute to the perception of taste. I had whole milk while growing up and I still prefer that. One of my friends grew up on the low-fat variety and likes it that way; he even tried whole on my recommendation and went back to low-fat because, "it didn't taste good".

I grew up with whole milk, weened myself to skim (and came to NOT like the heft of whole or 2%), then essentially stopped milk altogether. With kids, milk was brought back into the fridge (whole). Now, I prefer whole (certain premium organic brands are just other-worldly), but it only goes into recipes and the occasional bowl of cereal (like a dessert of fat and sugar).

Most things in moderation and you can focus on the pleasure aspect vs. the health. Whole has more pleasure to it.

If you're going to drink from the bosom of a cow, might as well go fully creepy.

Re: The case for drinking whole milk

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Why do they have to knock bacon in this discussion to bring milk up? A big part of all of this is just to consume less sugar and carbs. I eat bacon, eggs, and vegetables all the time for breakfast and my blood work couldn't be better from my bagel/cereal/oatmeal days. Go eat more bacon too: http://authoritynutrition.com/is-bacon-bad-or-good/

Re: The case for drinking whole milk

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One more little wrinkle: I don't think I can recall ever seeing semi-skimmed milk priced at a discount to whole milk at retail. Someone's got themselves a nice little earner selling off that removed dairy fat.

Whole milk is usually 10% – 15% more expensive where I live, though the lower-fat varieties are all priced the same. People in the Natural Golden Age™ didn't generally drink whole milk, either — they skimmed the cream off to use separately.

> Whole milk is usually 10% – 15% more expensive where I live, though the lower-fat varieties are all priced the same.

Interesting. That's not the case in the UK http://www.tesco.com/groceries/product/details/?id=254656543 http://www.tesco.com/groceries/product/details/?id=254656399 or Ireland http://www.tesco.ie/groceries/Product/Details/?id=250005508 http://www.tesco.ie/groceries/Product/Details/?id=250005606 .

Re: The case for drinking whole milk

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If you're drinking whole milk, you're getting a mix of fat and sugar. If you're drinking skim milk, you've removed the fat and kept the sugar. Skim milk's popularity is a result of the low-fat fad (perpetuated by the US government and others) which made everyone scared to eat anything with fat in it. But the fat is actually the good part of milk, so if you don't want the milk fat you're better off picking another drink entirely - like almond milk.

Re: The case for drinking whole milk

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>Surprise! Dairy fat actually helps avoid obesity I think the study over looks the most likely physiological reasoning for this, primarily suggesting it is a matter of satiety (feeling fuller consuming less). People like to hinge on the concept of calories in/calories out, then highlight short term diets of ice cream and Twinkies where people still lose weight because of the caloric intake management. Notwithstanding…

Satiety is everything. The reason overweight individuals have a tough time is that they are not satieted by carb laden foods and thus crave more. Many have broken that cycle with ketogenic diets which are higher in fat.

Re: The case for drinking whole milk

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The credibility of all nutrition recommendations/research has been shot to hell by decades of flip-flopping. Trans-fats are safe! No wait, they really aren't, so forget that they were in pervasive use for 25+ years. Don't eat cholesterol! No, forget about that. Coffee is healthy! No it's unhealthy! No healthy! Unhealthy! There's no way to trust any of this. Whatever decisions are made now I expect to read about the b…

I believe this is partially due to he trend to give all sides of a debate equal weight. Too often we consider multiple double blind experiments equal to multiple anecdotes.

There certainly is a way to trust it. http://norvig.com/experiment-design.html

Re: The case for drinking whole milk

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

A doctor once told me : cow milk is for calf, look how quickly they add mass.

Should we also stop eating green vegetables? Passed six months, cows only consume grass, and look how quickly they add mass.

I'm impressed by your ability to leap logical canyons.

As you point out. Milk is for baby animals. Cow milk is for cows. Adult humans are neither babies nor cows.

Green vegetables are for all omni/herbivores.

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