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Re: I have something to hide

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I really appreciate the resources provided. But I'm not a fan of the website suggesting that I want/need privacy because I have something to hide.

Care to elaborate on the details of your most recent sexually-intimate encounter?

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That's what I thought. Everyone has something they don't want others to know.

Re: I have something to hide

#33

You are being watched. The government has a secret system: a machine that spies on you every hour of every day.

This week's episode was pretty cool from the viewpoint of someone who works on communication efficient distributed computing. The story (for lack of a better non-totally-spoiling word) seems to be ahead of the research community there ;)

Re: I have something to hide

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post #3

I really appreciate the resources provided. But I'm not a fan of the website suggesting that I want/need privacy because I have something to hide.

The name is provacative, it is on purpose. A better phrase could have been, "we, as a society, have things to hide from companies and government", but it was too long :)

Isn't that still missing the point? We don't want to be spied on period, whether there are things to hide or not.

Re: I have something to hide

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post #3

I really appreciate the resources provided. But I'm not a fan of the website suggesting that I want/need privacy because I have something to hide.

Care to elaborate on the details of your most recent sexually-intimate encounter? ... That's what I thought. Everyone has something they don't want others to know.

I hear this response often to the "i have nothing to hide" camp. Feels to me like we would have something better to say. Pointing to one thing most clearly wish to hide is just not a good comparison with the digital breadcrumbs we throw around. They dont compare.

We have all come to accept that some people are able to know when you walk down the street past their store, if they wish. The bus driving is free to mentally note when you get off and on the bus.

Telling people to wear masks when walking outside because our daily routine is as equally private as our sex lives, just does not equate. At times I feel this line of argument belittles everyone and their opinions in debate.

Re: I have something to hide

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post #3

I really appreciate the resources provided. But I'm not a fan of the website suggesting that I want/need privacy because I have something to hide.

All of the below examples aside, why not? Why should your wanting to hide something be any more sinister than what you want for dinner? And if you yourself don't have anything to hide, awesome. Is it not worth protecting my right to hide things should I want or need to?

There are many reasons to desire privacy other than wanting or needing to hide something. The existence of this site does not invalidate those. But one great technique, when someone holds a rhetorical gun to your head, is to just reach up and pluck out the bullets, reclaiming and sanitizing the opposition argument. "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear." "Guess what, I do have things to hide, and that shouldn't get stigmatized."

Re: I have something to hide

#37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The name is provacative, it is on purpose. A better phrase could have been, "we, as a society, have things to hide from companies and government", but it was too long :)

Isn't that still missing the point? We don't want to be spied on period, whether there are things to hide or not.

It is the response to the argument that "If you don't have something to hide, you shouldn't mind having your rights trampled on" with the attendant presumption that anyone with something to hide must be a criminal or a T7t.

Re: I have something to hide

#38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The name is provacative, it is on purpose. A better phrase could have been, "we, as a society, have things to hide from companies and government", but it was too long :)

Isn't that still missing the point? We don't want to be spied on period, whether there are things to hide or not.

We need to get comfortable with the fact that having things to hide does not make us guilty, criminal, or unethical.

Whether it's dick pictures, political views, or associations with questionable NSA targeted groups like UNICEF[1].

I argue that it's our responsibility to hide things to support freedom and democracy.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2014/05/22/nsa_gchq_...

Re: I have something to hide

#39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't that still missing the point? We don't want to be spied on period, whether there are things to hide or not.

It is the response to the argument that "If you don't have something to hide, you shouldn't mind having your rights trampled on" with the attendant presumption that anyone with something to hide must be a criminal or a T7t.

T7t? I'm not familiar with that term and my Google-fu is apparently not strong enough.

Re: I have something to hide

#40
post #3

I really appreciate the resources provided. But I'm not a fan of the website suggesting that I want/need privacy because I have something to hide.

Well, we all have something to hide.

Exactly. The phrase 'something to hide' has become synonymous with 'something illegal' or 'you're doing something wrong', when in reality everyone has things they simply wish to keep private.
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