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Re: The Dark side of .io TLD

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Post by teknologist » Wed, Apr 15, 2015, 2:13 PM UTC

talmand wrote: post #14

creshal wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> However there are urban restructuring projects every day in western countries that displace more people without proper compensation Such as? Most western legal systems require compensation in such cases… at least in theory.

I think the key is in who gets to define what is "proper" compensation.

There's no number high enough- at the end of the day people will just cry out "amagad but our homes!" and claim that that's priceless and forever want money and sympathy from everyone. A line must be drawn somewhere.

Re: The Dark side of .io TLD

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Post by Aldo_MX » Wed, Apr 15, 2015, 2:15 PM UTC

talles wrote: post #17

gabipurcaru wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

while a .io domain is more expensive than a .com domain, you have to take into consideration that all the good .com domains are already taken (and you have to buy them from third parties for more money), while you still can get some good .io domains

Sure, but there's still some good .io domains available exactly because they aren't cheap (right?).

I pay <40 USD / year for taco.io, I have no idea of how much million dollars (which obviously I can't afford) would taco.com be worth.

Re: The Dark side of .io TLD

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Post by forgottenpass » Wed, Apr 15, 2015, 2:18 PM UTC

jfernandez wrote: post #16

"...its possiblities for domain hacks..." Ok I'll admit it, I'm a little lost. What do they mean by this?

mildly clever + has something to do with computers = lets call it a hack

Re: The Dark side of .io TLD

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Post by dogma1138 » Wed, Apr 15, 2015, 2:24 PM UTC

Symbiote wrote: post #27

creshal wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> However there are urban restructuring projects every day in western countries that displace more people without proper compensation Such as? Most western legal systems require compensation in such cases… at least in theory.

A possible example is the people living in ~500 houses in Camden (London). The houses are to be demolished to make way for a new railway, and they're not happy with the level of compensation offered.

If you go for London then you can look at all the council houses restructuring projects that pretty much kick all the non-(extremely)wealthy residents out of London by offering them well below real market value for their properties and then developing the council estates into luxury apartment projects.

Re: The Dark side of .io TLD

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Post by wpietri » Wed, Apr 15, 2015, 2:31 PM UTC

dogma1138 wrote: post #7

The archipelago was first settled in the 19th century, only about 1500 people were displaced, yes the British government mistreated these people by not properly compensating them because the US and NATO needed a military base in the region. However there are urban restructuring projects every day in western countries that displace more people without proper compensation than this incident. And while i understand that…

I'm very uncomfortable with this line of argument:

> However there are urban restructuring projects every day in western countries that displace more people without proper compensation than this incident.

I suspect it's factually untrue, but I'm more concerned with the moral implication that if we can find a wrong Y that is worse than wrong X, we shouldn't care about X.

There is a legitimate version of the argument, one where we triage resource usage. But our ability to recognize and acknowledge wrongs is not a limited resource. Indeed, this style of argument expends far more energy in denying the recognition of wrongs that it would take to say, "Why yes, that is wrong."

Re: The Dark side of .io TLD

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Post by MichaelGG » Wed, Apr 15, 2015, 2:32 PM UTC

dogma1138 wrote: post #7

The archipelago was first settled in the 19th century, only about 1500 people were displaced, yes the British government mistreated these people by not properly compensating them because the US and NATO needed a military base in the region. However there are urban restructuring projects every day in western countries that displace more people without proper compensation than this incident. And while i understand that…

And is there any reason to think that the British Government would be giving these people the proceeds of the British Indian Oceans TLD?

If they had their land and own government called Chagos, it seems unlikely they'd have .io.

Re: The Dark side of .io TLD

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Post by pdpi » Wed, Apr 15, 2015, 2:34 PM UTC

wpietri wrote: post #35

dogma1138 wrote: post #7

The archipelago was first settled in the 19th century, only about 1500 people were displaced, yes the British government mistreated these people by not properly compensating them because the US and NATO needed a military base in the region. However there are urban restructuring projects every day in western countries that displace more people without proper compensation than this incident. And while i understand that…

I'm very uncomfortable with this line of argument: > However there are urban restructuring projects every day in western countries that displace more people without proper compensation than this incident. I suspect it's factually untrue, but I'm more concerned with the moral implication that if we can find a wrong Y that is worse than wrong X, we shouldn't care about X. There is a legitimate version of the argument,…

> but I'm more concerned with the moral implication that if we can find a wrong Y that is worse than wrong X, we shouldn't care about X.

Definitely not "shouldn't care". But you should ask yourself "if there's a ton of materially similar things I'm ok with, why should I feel outraged about this one in particular?"

Sometimes the answer is that you shouldn't feel outraged at all, other times the answer will be that you should be outraged at all similar things. It's only rarely that the outrage should be focused on the one particular incident.

Re: The Dark side of .io TLD

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Post by MichaelGG » Wed, Apr 15, 2015, 2:35 PM UTC

talles wrote: post #23

yannickmahe wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Companies will get .io domains to appeal to developers as it looks like I/O (in/out).

Or for using it with words ended with "io" (like scenar.io, portfol.io and such)

Does this work well? A friend did that for his company and it was a real pain to explain that the last two letters of a full word have a dot first. Ended up getting the .com.

I've got ci.al (so.ci.al, fa.ci.al, etc), I think, but trying to tell someone that over voice seems... problematic.

Re: The Dark side of .io TLD

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Post by ankitml » Wed, Apr 15, 2015, 2:37 PM UTC

dogma1138 wrote: post #7

The archipelago was first settled in the 19th century, only about 1500 people were displaced, yes the British government mistreated these people by not properly compensating them because the US and NATO needed a military base in the region. However there are urban restructuring projects every day in western countries that displace more people without proper compensation than this incident. And while i understand that…

Justifying one injustice with another?

Re: The Dark side of .io TLD

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Post by tajen » Wed, Apr 15, 2015, 2:37 PM UTC

talmand wrote: post #14

creshal wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> However there are urban restructuring projects every day in western countries that displace more people without proper compensation Such as? Most western legal systems require compensation in such cases… at least in theory.

I think the key is in who gets to define what is "proper" compensation.

If the price were enough, they would sell it. While I understand that this logic is not helpful when we try to develop the nation's infrastructure, we must not forget that we're imposing the desires of a more important mass of people at the depends of a tiny number of victims.