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HN Cheaters: Catch me if you can

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Re: HN Cheaters: Catch me if you can

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Trying to login to Porter.io via Github gives a Cloudflare error suggesting your server is down: Error 502 Ray ID: 1d351e9c19a519b6 • 2015-04-07 10:41:24 UTC Bad gateway

Scaled to a large instance with more instance. Should be stable for now.

Still unavailable unfortunately!

Re: HN Cheaters: Catch me if you can

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How do you define cheating? There's lots of cliques of people that hang around some product or community or service X. Someone tweets/emails/taps-you-on-the-shoulder and says: look at this cool thing that just happened! Being an avid HNer, what do you do? Submit to HN for the karma of course. Which results in a lot of upvotes happening in chunk. There is nothing wrong about this. How do you distinguish such behavior from outright cheating?

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It would be nice if the score of a page was not a global thing, but if scores were clustered, depending on interest. This could be automatic, based on the user's own upvoting history. Of course, it may be important to not get too much "bubbled" into one's own world, but this could be mitigated by a slider in the UI by which the user could specify how much "bubbling" he/she wants.

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I honestly suspected some form of this happening to some extent. I did not realise the extent of the suspected cheating, but it does remind me of the old days of Digg. I recall Digg had a massive "digg brigade" problem where certain groups of users and particular power users like MrBabyMan would make the homepage on what felt like a daily basis. Solving these kinds of problems is a lot harder than just analysing data…

Reddit is fudging displayed votes and shadowbanning (the poster can't tell he has been banned) for similar reasons, iirc.

Re: HN Cheaters: Catch me if you can

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What a great way of penalising posts that take a long time to read.

So maybe we should propose a new field which is the approx. time to finish reading when submitting a story.

And so the cheaters would pick longer durations.

Re: HN Cheaters: Catch me if you can

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(I have the 2nd story HN as I write this.) I've had front page stories on HN maybe five or six times over the last couple of years. I don't feel anything has changed over that time. If you look at my submission history, you'll see about 90% of what I submit gets no votes. I once tried submitting a story a couple of times when I felt that it was getting less traction than expected - it made no difference. I'm actually…

I've had your experience, but I've also had the experience of content which has been posted multiple times suddenly skyrocketing to the frontpage. I wouldn't be so quick to think that the fickleness you experience is your content's fault.

In my experience so few people visit the /newest page, and so few in general vote, that there is a disturbing amount of chance involved.

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