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Re: Fear of Apple

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Post by m3rc »

[deleted] wrote: post #25
Animats wrote: post #22

There's a strange phenomenon if you make negative remarks about Apple on forums such as HN or Slashdot. They tend to be voted up shortly after posting. Then, about an hour later, a lot of downvotes come in. I've seen this several times, with a consistent response delay of about an hour. After the downvotes at one hour, more upvotes may come in; the downvote effort is a one-time event. Anyone else seeing this?

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Uhm, I think your comment is a real show of confirmation bias, or I suppose reverse confirmation bias.

HN is deeply entrenched in the current Startup culture, a movement that is HEAVILY connected to both Apple and libertarianism...

Re: Fear of Apple

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Post by forgottenpass »

skc wrote: post #3
gress wrote: post #2

This piece ignores the obvious. These people aren't afraid of their own criticisms of Apple. They are afraid that their criticisms will be magnified and distorted by the press and used as the basis of hit-pieces, and that this will reflect badly on them. This isn't fear of Apple. It's legitimate fear of what the press will do with what they say.

Doesn't wash. Trick question, why is it that they are not afraid about what the press will do with their snarky comments on say, Google, Microsoft, Samsung or Android?

why is it that they are not afraid about what the press will do with their snarky comments on say, Google, Microsoft, Samsung or Android?

Because the press is also running snarky comments about those? Fitting in with the general direction of the press hivemind is one of the first hard lessons I had to learn about putting anything on twitter. Of course there are multiple threads in any one naval-gazing clique, and my interests span across multiple circles of press that don't pay attention to each-other, so I generally don't tweet anything anymore.

Re: Fear of Apple

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Post by rdsnsca »

seabee wrote: post #20
raesene4 wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Given that in the mobile field, Android is perceived as the leader, this line of thinking doesn't really seem to hold.

Android is the leader by market share but iOS leads mind share. Android isn't a strong brand. Samsung, HTC, Sony, LG et al put their own corporate branding ahead of whatever Android version they use. Amazon barely mentions its existence. Apple and Samsung are probably the only strong brands in mobile right now and Apple is a lot further ahead.

Apple leads in the most important metric profit share. They took 93 % of the smart phone profit last quater.

Re: Fear of Apple

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Post by mikeash »

smackfu wrote: post #15

This is the same Apple who has a published document saying: "If your App is rejected, we have a Review Board that you can appeal to. If you run to the press and trash us, it never helps." https://developer.apple.com/app-store/review/guidelines/ When this company controls your livelihood, you are wise to take a very broad view of what "trash us" means.

The thing is, it's completely wrong. Running to the press works great when Apple screws up.

Re: Fear of Apple

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Post by danielsamuels »

smackfu wrote: post #15

This is the same Apple who has a published document saying: "If your App is rejected, we have a Review Board that you can appeal to. If you run to the press and trash us, it never helps." https://developer.apple.com/app-store/review/guidelines/ When this company controls your livelihood, you are wise to take a very broad view of what "trash us" means.

Yeah, this is literally covered in the article..

Re: Fear of Apple

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Post by ctdonath »

jmduke wrote: post #17

This was a much better article than I was anticipating. (A lot of Apple criticism is either shallow or vitriolic, I guess a side effect of inspiring so much fervor on either end of the spectrum.) My new favorite anecdote of Apple's deficiencies in the services side of things is how the App Store and iTunes Connect was just down for at least half a day a couple weeks back, with no visibility except a press release: ht…

But if they don't take good care of that "paltry" revenue stream, there will be a greater cost on lost device sales.

Re: Fear of Apple

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Post by serve_yay »

Animats wrote: post #22

There's a strange phenomenon if you make negative remarks about Apple on forums such as HN or Slashdot. They tend to be voted up shortly after posting. Then, about an hour later, a lot of downvotes come in. I've seen this several times, with a consistent response delay of about an hour. After the downvotes at one hour, more upvotes may come in; the downvote effort is a one-time event. Anyone else seeing this?

There are hardly ever trenchant criticisms of Apple here. It's the same ohhh they're too proprietary, form over function, their users are sheep, etc, etc. There are good criticisms of Apple to be made, but the crowd here almost never makes them.

Re: Fear of Apple

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Post by integraton »

gcb0 wrote: post #12

how times change. tomorrow i will have to put down my windows and Linux laptops to get a sanctioned apple at work. despite my claims that i won't be able to test touch screen interactions with it... apple hardware is the new Microsoft outlook in the corporate world. all i wanted was a sexy surface pro 3 :( how times have changed

Don't worry. There are still big parts of the world outside of the technology industry that are held hostage by Microsoft and their devoted IT department foot soldiers who refuse to acknowledge anything outside of the Microsoft bubble.

Re: Fear of Apple

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Post by Dotnaught »

The commodification of software isn't just an issue for Apple developers. It applies to all content, because there's so much competition for limited attention and the tools to produce content are so widely accessible. Many ebooks get released for free and $2.99 seems to be the upper limit for self-published authors. Established software and literary brands can ask more. But among those trying to get recognition, the price pressure is considerable. And good luck getting people to pay for your music.

Re: Fear of Apple

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Post by JimmaDaRustla »

I got banned from theverge.com for suggesting that celebrities' Apple ID passwords may have been cracked by a brute force vulnerability with iCloud.

Permanent ban, no explanation, no e-mail. The fishiest part, someone (not verge staff) replied to my comment saying "enjoy your ban".

I've been weirded out by the power and bias of Apple employees and/or fans ever since.

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