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In College and Hiding from Scary Ideas

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Re: In College and Hiding from Scary Ideas

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"Ms. El Rhazoui replied, somewhat irritably, “Being Charlie Hebdo means to die because of a drawing,” and not everyone has the guts to do that (although she didn’t use the word guts)." Amusing that the NYT's fusty policy for censoring profanity pokes its nose into THIS quote, of all things.

Guts as opposed to... balls? I'm trying to think what the replaced word would've been.

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"Ms. El Rhazoui replied, somewhat irritably, “Being Charlie Hebdo means to die because of a drawing,” and not everyone has the guts to do that (although she didn’t use the word guts)." Amusing that the NYT's fusty policy for censoring profanity pokes its nose into THIS quote, of all things.

Guts as opposed to... balls? I'm trying to think what the replaced word would've been.

Yes, apparently: http://chicagomaroon.com/2015/02/27/charlie-hebdo-journalist... (third-to-last paragraph.)

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Unfortunately, there's a real professional risk in speaking out against this tide of censorship, so I won't say much. This is a great essay on the increasingly anti-controversy left: http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/04/22/right-is-the-new-left/

Cheers for that link, it's very interesting reading.

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It wasn't so long ago that "trigger warning" wasn't even a common phrase. I remember thinking about this in college, though, because I was in a relationship with someone who would get angry at people for expressing input that was too closely related to recent private trauma she had been through. I didn't really understand it because I had always trained myself to judge the producer of input by the intent of the produ…

I've always liked the adage "Offense is taken, not given"

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I can definitely relate first hand to this as a current college student. To borrow some jargon, I absolutely feel 'unsafe' discussing many of these topics in public, and I don't hold controversial or polarizing opinions. Some people quickly label others as racist or misogynistic for presenting contrary viewpoints. Granted, those who seek to shut out debate by this sort of censorship are probably not worth debating, i…

On the other hand, I wonder if this opens the door for more radical opinions on the opposite side. If those who deviate from the socially enforced norm expect (whether correctly or not) for their views to be condemned anyway the marginal social cost of holding more extreme views is lessened.

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"Ms. El Rhazoui replied, somewhat irritably, “Being Charlie Hebdo means to die because of a drawing,” and not everyone has the guts to do that (although she didn’t use the word guts)." Amusing that the NYT's fusty policy for censoring profanity pokes its nose into THIS quote, of all things.

> NYT's fusty policy for censoring profanity pokes its nose into THIS quote

Assuming that the original was "balls", it was perhaps done in ironic self-awareness, considering that the original expression would be disapproved of by feminists because it links a male-associated feature with courage, seen to be a positive character trait.

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It wasn't so long ago that "trigger warning" wasn't even a common phrase. I remember thinking about this in college, though, because I was in a relationship with someone who would get angry at people for expressing input that was too closely related to recent private trauma she had been through. I didn't really understand it because I had always trained myself to judge the producer of input by the intent of the produ…

I've always liked the adage "Offense is taken, not given"

But sometimes someone does run up to you and ram it into your hands before you even know what they're doing :)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've always rolled my eyes at complaints about the "trophy generation" (Adam Carolla had a particularly brain-deadening rant about it), but this article honestly did get me wondering about how people like that would be able to cope with actual professional atmospheres after college. On the other hand, this article is an editorial that doesn't really try to quantify the problem, so maybe "people like that" aren't real…

As someone who graduated from university in the last few years and has observed the drastic and gaping difference between school and workplace environment, people adapt to their new circumstances pretty quickly. Keep in mind that 99% of the "trigger warning" generation is just following along with what is presented to them in university as unassailable orthodoxy. When they get to the workplace and are presented with…

Don't worry. The coddled masses are slowly changing workplace culture to suit them...at least up until the point it affects a business' bottom line.

I feel like we're approaching some sort of new, self-imposed dark age.

Re: In College and Hiding from Scary Ideas

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It wasn't so long ago that "trigger warning" wasn't even a common phrase. I remember thinking about this in college, though, because I was in a relationship with someone who would get angry at people for expressing input that was too closely related to recent private trauma she had been through. I didn't really understand it because I had always trained myself to judge the producer of input by the intent of the produ…

> "I had always trained myself to judge the producer of input by the intent of the producer, rather than by how it affected me" Then I applaud you, as that is a vital skill, rarely understood. So much miscommunication happens because content is easier to follow than intent, yet understanding intent is what really lets you get to know someone.

Great comments, yours and the "parent's". Very eloquently put. I have had problems with people thinking I'm arguing or attacking their ideas, when I am only looking for a debate and a more thorough view of their ideas and line of thinking.

This forced me to rethink my communication skills and try to change my approach of conversing. I've found that people who understand those concepts can use them to their advantage and benefit immensely in all sorts of settings.

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