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Early adopters bloodied by Ubuntu's Karmic Koala

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Re: Early adopters bloodied by Ubuntu's Karmic Koala

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Never upgrade Ubuntu. Just reinstall. It's not that user-friendly.

The concept or way to upgrade it is ok... it's just that it almost always causes a lot more trouble than a clean install.

My experiences so far : 6->7 : System failure, unable to boot 8.04 -> 8.10 : Alright overall, a few bugs to fix (most concerned X) 8.10 -> 9.04 : Better, still a few bugs (info tooltips, graphic card drivers)

Re: Early adopters bloodied by Ubuntu's Karmic Koala

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It's stuff like this which makes me think that the release cycle for Ubuntu is just too brisk. I've just recently managed to get two 8.10 installs to the point where they're comfortably configured and stable. I'm still working out a few issues with Jaunty on a netbook. There's no way I'm going to upgrade that thing to Karmic for maybe six months or so. Granted, this makes me an LTS guy and not an early adopter, but I don't think my situation is unique.

Re: Early adopters bloodied by Ubuntu's Karmic Koala

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Ubuntu 8.10 broke Intel drivers, which are OSS. Furthermore Ubuntu ships with restricted drivers manager, which pragmatically installs properietary drivers where needed. Software vendors have the resposibility to their users to perform regression tests as part of their product. If Ubuntu doesn't want do do that, or do it better, then they shouln't bother to compete with other OSs that do. I'm saying this after 10+ ye…

I moved my home desktop back to Windows XP after Ubuntu 8.10 was released. It's the most stable desktop Operating System I know of. I never lost a file on it. I've never been unable to boot. I've never had hardware that wouldn't work on it. I have experienced quite a bit of Apple drama and figured it's just not worth the money. If I need to do any unixy stuff I have a button on my desktop that instantly launches an E…

You've never used it enough then :) all Operating systems have roughly equal "failure" rates in my experience (Fedora, W7 [this might change] and Server 2003 slightly lower / Ubuntu slightly higher than normal).

I work with a shed load of different operating systems working in a variety of capacities daily (though not so much in OSX). I haven't come across an operating system yet that recognises all hardware painlessly, doesn't come with a variety of random errors and doesn't ever crash :)

Re: Early adopters bloodied by Ubuntu's Karmic Koala

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ubuntu 8.10 broke Intel drivers, which are OSS. Furthermore Ubuntu ships with restricted drivers manager, which pragmatically installs properietary drivers where needed. Software vendors have the resposibility to their users to perform regression tests as part of their product. If Ubuntu doesn't want do do that, or do it better, then they shouln't bother to compete with other OSs that do. I'm saying this after 10+ ye…

I have Ubuntu on my desktop and server, and OS X on my laptop. Personally I've experienced less problems with Ubuntu. I use proprietary 64bit ATI and my upgrade was smooth. Considering I'd pay money for Ubuntu, I'm very happy to get it for free. If you're worried about stability, I suggest using the long term releases instead of upgrading to the cutting edge right away. If you want the cutting edge, wait a month befo…

'If you're worried about stability, I suggest using the long term releases instead of upgrading to the cutting edge right away.'

The stable release didn't completely support using an external monitor on my video card. Seeing as I do presentations for a living, that's not so great.

'It's also important to remember that you are not a customer with a support contract with Canonical. You are a customer getting a great operating system for free. Something to factor into your calculations.'

From knowing a couple of people who work at Canonical, I honestly doubt Canonical support would consider lack of external monitor support a real bug.

Re: Early adopters bloodied by Ubuntu's Karmic Koala

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ubuntu 8.10 broke Intel drivers, which are OSS. Furthermore Ubuntu ships with restricted drivers manager, which pragmatically installs properietary drivers where needed. Software vendors have the resposibility to their users to perform regression tests as part of their product. If Ubuntu doesn't want do do that, or do it better, then they shouln't bother to compete with other OSs that do. I'm saying this after 10+ ye…

Have you tried other distros like Debian, OpenSUSE, Fedora?

In the last 10 years? Red Hat since 5.0, Debian since either Slinky or Woody, SuSE since SuSE 5.0 or 6.
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