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Re: What's your chance of getting a U.S. work visa? Find out with BorderScore

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Post by jafaku »

wahsd wrote: post #7

Or, in other words, how much will you deprive your own society of and contribute to American society, assuring our domination and your society's dependence and subjugation.

I'm not planning on going to America because a) I'm more interested in seeing other places (sorry) and b) It's impossible anyway. But let me tell you something: When I leave, I won't be depriving "my own society" (whatever that means) of anything, because that's how much value I can produce here, with all the corruption and bureaucratic obstacles.

Re: What's your chance of getting a U.S. work visa? Find out with BorderScore

#32

Post by petercooper »

jheriko wrote: post #25
aurelifornia wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is just so depressing.

i am making assumptions, i could very well be wrong. the form i had to fill out riddled with questions about arab descent made me skeptical... it might have been more to do with my past, having a minor criminal record as a child or my loud and public controversial nature... or anything else that they could determine from my UK passport number and other details i provided when I initially applied for an ESTA (you don'…

(you don't normally need a visa as a UK citizen)

A criminal record means one would though (the US doesn't recognize "spent" convictions) or even an arrest for a crime involving "moral turpitude". The rules are incredibly harsh.

Re: What's your chance of getting a U.S. work visa? Find out with BorderScore

#33

Post by jheriko »

petercooper wrote: post #32
jheriko wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

i am making assumptions, i could very well be wrong. the form i had to fill out riddled with questions about arab descent made me skeptical... it might have been more to do with my past, having a minor criminal record as a child or my loud and public controversial nature... or anything else that they could determine from my UK passport number and other details i provided when I initially applied for an ESTA (you don'…

(you don't normally need a visa as a UK citizen) A criminal record means one would though (the US doesn't recognize "spent" convictions) or even an arrest for a crime involving "moral turpitude". The rules are incredibly harsh.

yes, although it does mention in the paperwork that minor offences as a child do not normally stop a visa application. it is also abundantly clear that this is a problem that prevents using the ESTA system to travel.

this is part of why i feel i should stress that i am making assumptions, and not hide from any other issues that i may have there... there is a certain amount of bitterness from having gone through the process and given up because it took so long, required so much effort and cost too much money.

Re: What's your chance of getting a U.S. work visa? Find out with BorderScore

#34

Post by Dewie »

jheriko wrote: post #18

my personal chances seem to be about zero. at least without spending a lot of time, money and effort. when i last applied it rapidly descended into a process that felt like bribery and moving goalposts. that being said, i in no way blame america for making it hard for people of arab descent who spent any serious amount of time immersed in that culture. i would do the same. (i /assume/ that was the problem - i may wel…

> that being said, i in no way blame america for making it hard for people of arab descent who spent any serious amount of time immersed in that culture. i would do the same.

You seem eager to kiss the hand that slaps you.

Re: What's your chance of getting a U.S. work visa? Find out with BorderScore

#36

Post by ecdavis »

neumino wrote: post #14
largote wrote: post #12

For Software Engineers, citizens from these 4 countries can get work Visas other than an H1-B: Canada Mexico Singapore Chile The first two on the TN Visa, and the latter two on the H1-B1 Visa, the cap has never been reached on either.

Australian can also get a E-3 visa, which is similar to a H1-B.

The major differences are that the E-3 can be renewed indefinitely, but it is technically not dual-intent. The E-3 cap has also never been reached.

Re: What's your chance of getting a U.S. work visa? Find out with BorderScore

#37

Post by wahsd »

throwaway344 wrote: post #11
wahsd wrote: post #7

Or, in other words, how much will you deprive your own society of and contribute to American society, assuring our domination and your society's dependence and subjugation.

Human beings are not property of their governments. They have a right to live, and move to a place that they choose. Brain drain might be a problem, but the correct approach is to make the drained country a better place to live, not to prohibit escape.

I didn't say government, I said society.

It's sad that people don't realize that or value the contributions they could make to their societies, to lift their cultures and countries, instead of compounding ever more advantages. It's brain drain. It's rather supremacist in nature too and not unlike colonialism.

Re: What's your chance of getting a U.S. work visa? Find out with BorderScore

#38

Post by wahsd »

jafaku wrote: post #31
wahsd wrote: post #7

Or, in other words, how much will you deprive your own society of and contribute to American society, assuring our domination and your society's dependence and subjugation.

I'm not planning on going to America because a) I'm more interested in seeing other places (sorry) and b) It's impossible anyway. But let me tell you something: When I leave, I won't be depriving "my own society" (whatever that means) of anything, because that's how much value I can produce here, with all the corruption and bureaucratic obstacles.

And it will remain so because all those who could possibly affect change are taking the easy road to America and compounding our returns and advantages.

Re: What's your chance of getting a U.S. work visa? Find out with BorderScore

#39

Post by WildUtah »

lazaroclapp wrote: post #16
largote wrote: post #12

For Software Engineers, citizens from these 4 countries can get work Visas other than an H1-B: Canada Mexico Singapore Chile The first two on the TN Visa, and the latter two on the H1-B1 Visa, the cap has never been reached on either.

True, but keep in mind TN Visas are designed for temporary work. They need to be renewed every 3 years, even for the same employer, and offer no path towards permanent residence. So, they can be used for people doing a work exchange for a company that has branches in Canada/Mexico and the U.S., or as a bridge when the H1-B cap has been hit for the current/next year. They don't really substitute an H1-B in the mid/lon…

"temporary work. They need to be renewed every 3 years, even for the same employer, and offer no path towards permanent residence."

But TNs are renewable infinitely. You did need to call yourself a systems analyst. Systems analyst was on the list of approved TN jobs but computer programmer was excluded, even though they're the same thing. I believe software engineer was recently added even though that is also the exact same thing as a computer programmer or systems analyst. The Dept of Labor has a dozen or more objectively indistinguishable words for programmer.

There is a route to permanent residence, of course. You can either just keep renewing or you can marry an American. You probably can't afford to retire in the Bay Area as a programmer anyway if your spouse isn't insisting so you might as well return home when you're done working. Canada and Mexico are nice places to go home to at the end of a career.

Re: What's your chance of getting a U.S. work visa? Find out with BorderScore

#40

Post by [deleted] »

wahsd wrote: post #37
throwaway344 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Human beings are not property of their governments. They have a right to live, and move to a place that they choose. Brain drain might be a problem, but the correct approach is to make the drained country a better place to live, not to prohibit escape.

I didn't say government, I said society. It's sad that people don't realize that or value the contributions they could make to their societies, to lift their cultures and countries, instead of compounding ever more advantages. It's brain drain. It's rather supremacist in nature too and not unlike colonialism.

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