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Saying goodbye to encrypted SMS/MMS

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Re: Saying goodbye to encrypted SMS/MMS

#31

  We don’t want the state-run telcos in Saudi, Iran, Bahrain,
  Belarus, China, Egypt, Cuba, USA, etc… to have direct access
  to the metadata of TextSecure users in those countries or
  anywhere else.
Sad to see that the 'land of the free' has become bundled (in a relatively short period of time) into a category of oppressive states that have little or no respect for the privacy of its citizens.

Re: Saying goodbye to encrypted SMS/MMS

#32
post #4

"We don’t want the state-run telcos in Saudi, Iran, Bahrain, Belarus, China, Egypt, Cuba, USA, etc… to have direct access to the metadata of TextSecure users in those countries or anywhere else." I <3 Moxie.

I'm curious how GCM is much better? Granted Google isn't a state actor, but it's still a major corp.

Google surely does not fall into the category of a state actor but has been widely reported as part of PRISM. Go figure.

Re: Saying goodbye to encrypted SMS/MMS

#33
post #28

I'm disappointed that TextSecure is moving from one of the last deployed federated platforms (SMS) to their own closed transport. :(

The plan is to move towards a federated structure of their own. I think right now CyanogenMod operates its own TextSecure servers.

Re: Saying goodbye to encrypted SMS/MMS

#34
post #31

We don’t want the state-run telcos in Saudi, Iran, Bahrain, Belarus, China, Egypt, Cuba, USA, etc… to have direct access to the metadata of TextSecure users in those countries or anywhere else. Sad to see that the 'land of the free' has become bundled (in a relatively short period of time) into a category of oppressive states that have little or no respect for the privacy of its citizens.

It seems pretty clear that more or less every advanced country should be included on that list.

America needs a new constitutional amendment to address what the 4th Amendment means in the 21st century.

Re: Saying goodbye to encrypted SMS/MMS

#35
post #31

We don’t want the state-run telcos in Saudi, Iran, Bahrain, Belarus, China, Egypt, Cuba, USA, etc… to have direct access to the metadata of TextSecure users in those countries or anywhere else. Sad to see that the 'land of the free' has become bundled (in a relatively short period of time) into a category of oppressive states that have little or no respect for the privacy of its citizens.

Do people really think that having your texts read is comparably oppressive to living in Belarus?

Re: Saying goodbye to encrypted SMS/MMS

#36
post #31

We don’t want the state-run telcos in Saudi, Iran, Bahrain, Belarus, China, Egypt, Cuba, USA, etc… to have direct access to the metadata of TextSecure users in those countries or anywhere else. Sad to see that the 'land of the free' has become bundled (in a relatively short period of time) into a category of oppressive states that have little or no respect for the privacy of its citizens.

I read this bundling as a deliberate rhetorical/political move. You could have bundled the US with other surveillance-happy Western nations such as Australia or the UK, which as far as I understand do not behave in a qualitatively different manner.

Re: Saying goodbye to encrypted SMS/MMS

#37
post #17

its been kind of nice to have textsecure as an option when internet is not available (which sadly happens a lot especially for travelers...) I understand the decision is, again, for the greater good, but I can't help to think it's going to leave a hole.

> its been kind of nice to have textsecure as an option when internet is not available (which sadly happens a lot especially for travelers...)

Yes, this was also one of my main use of TS, and also in the subway, where Data is limited... Else, I could use Whatsapp, with ZRTP...

Re: Saying goodbye to encrypted SMS/MMS

#38
post #14

That's unfortunate. Encrypted SMS/MMS has been my primary use for TextSecure. For contacts that have intermittent or expensive data connections, especially while roaming, the ability to use SMS was a selling point vs other messaging systems. Telco's in my country record and store SMS data for a period and knowing this data was encrypted and unreadable by them was another useful feature of TextSecure.

How much data is this actually likely to use? Effectively plain text data doesn't seem like it should be expensive. Even with something like .odt you're looking at a few KB a 'page.'

Re: Saying goodbye to encrypted SMS/MMS

#39

I guess I thought of TextSecure as a service I used to encrypt my messages. Does anyone have recommendations for a service that will encrypt my messages?

textsecure is a service that will encrypt your messages (to yourself and chosen others), imesssage is a service that will encrypt your messages (to apple), telegram is a service that sometimes encrypts your messages ... etc. pp.

none of the services encrypt your sms anymore, though.

Re: Saying goodbye to encrypted SMS/MMS

#40

I guess I thought of TextSecure as a service I used to encrypt my messages. Does anyone have recommendations for a service that will encrypt my messages?

How about Textsecure? Unless you specifically want to use SMS or MMS as the transport, your messages are still very much encrypted.
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