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Re: Jaconda – Integrate your Telegram with services

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Post by firedev » Thu, Feb 05, 2015, 2:26 AM UTC

jszymborski wrote: post #17

jszymborski wrote: post #11

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Interesting... Google Talk dropping XMPP was a dark day, but alas that's the nature of basing a business off Google services. It's also great to hear that it started out using XMPP, maybe Jaconda can bring XMPP back by allowing discovery based on GitHub accounts :o

>"XMPP messengers are slowly sinking" I'm sure telegram is a good choice for your company, but "XMPP messengers are slowly sinking", I think, is a silly statement.

This is my personal opinion I've gathered from experience. I still have some friends using XMPP from Gtalk times. I have 0 new XMPP contacts for years since the fall of Gtalk. One might argue that it is still going strong, but I don't see anything proving that point. And the most authoritative indicator for ourselves is the amount of companies signed up for Jaconda. Guess having to add DNS records so XMPP is working on your domain is not helping either.

Re: Jaconda – Integrate your Telegram with services

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Post by firedev » Thu, Feb 05, 2015, 2:29 AM UTC

thomasfl wrote: post #22

firedev wrote: post #21

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That is exactly how jaconda.im is working now, everybody in the room can send emails into the room.

Cool! Do you use Telegram as a backend for jaconda.im as well? If so, then it's also cool to see somebody giving Slack some competition with a more open backend server.

Jaconda for Telegram works in a different way compared to XMPP Jaconda.im, it is possible to stitch them together but it's a bit too early at the moment.

Re: Jaconda – Integrate your Telegram with services

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Post by mironov » Thu, Feb 05, 2015, 6:00 AM UTC

Moter8 wrote: post #24

mironov wrote: post #13

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Fixed, thank you! Btw, here is how commit looks like in telegram: http://d.pr/i/an9I

Could need some link to the issue perhaps?

Good Point.

Re: Jaconda – Integrate your Telegram with services

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Post by darklajid » Thu, Feb 05, 2015, 1:50 PM UTC

berdario wrote: post #25

darklajid wrote: post #23

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What do you gain there? People that moved to Hangouts aren't available on GTalk (the xmpp part). I run my own XMPP server, people that have ancient Android 2.x mobiles and don't buy into the G+ nonsense can talk to me. People with more modern systems/that 'upgraded' to Hangout cannot. Since my server cannot magically filter these people I came to the conclusion that Google _doesn't_ support xmpp, federation or not, f…

> People that moved to Hangouts aren't available on GTalk (the xmpp part). I run my own XMPP server, people that have ancient Android 2.x mobiles and don't buy into the G+ nonsense can talk to me. People with more modern systems/that 'upgraded' to Hangout cannot. True, but this is "only" a client problem. What is first and foremost important is the support server-side. This ugly situation is just like if everyone sud…

I .. wouldn't bet on Google's XMPP support.

They just (~now~) sent out messages to GTalk users, telling them that Gtalk-the-desktop-app support will be terminated on the 16th of February, like .. in a couple of days from now.

For me Google's xmpp support is nonexistent, I understand Jaconda's attitude.

Re: Jaconda – Integrate your Telegram with services

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Post by berdario » Tue, Feb 17, 2015, 2:56 PM UTC

darklajid wrote: post #34

berdario wrote: post #25

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> People that moved to Hangouts aren't available on GTalk (the xmpp part). I run my own XMPP server, people that have ancient Android 2.x mobiles and don't buy into the G+ nonsense can talk to me. People with more modern systems/that 'upgraded' to Hangout cannot. True, but this is "only" a client problem. What is first and foremost important is the support server-side. This ugly situation is just like if everyone sud…

I .. wouldn't bet on Google's XMPP support. They just (~now~) sent out messages to GTalk users, telling them that Gtalk-the-desktop-app support will be terminated on the 16th of February, like .. in a couple of days from now. For me Google's xmpp support is nonexistent, I understand Jaconda's attitude.

Yeah, I feel less and less confident in relying on Google's XMPP. I was conviced that this would be the time.

But I waited until today (17th February) to reply, and... well, Google hasn't shutdown its XMPP servers yet, apparently

Go figure...