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Re: YouTube now defaults to HTML5 video

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Post by tosseraccount »

micampe wrote: post #26
tosseraccount wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Steve may have been a tad unrepresentative that "open video" issue. Remember, this is the guy that controlled QuickTime and never opened it up. That was a bit of problem for open video supporters. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Francisco_Canyon_Company

This comment originally read: ”From the guy that tried to force QuickTime on us?” , and that was the comment I was responding to. Also, the events described in your link all took place while Jobs was not at Apple.

Fair enough. Looks like some Apple fanatics are out today. If you criticize apple ; you have to be careful otherwise you get whited out pretty quick. So I toned it down.

My point was the Steve Jobs complaining about proprietary video is very ironic ... when he was pedaling his own proprietary video tech.

Re: YouTube now defaults to HTML5 video

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SeanDav wrote: post #21
toddsiegel wrote: post #17

I've kept Flash around for the oddball site here and there that still requires it, but this week I decided to uninstall rather than patch it[1]. [1] - https://helpx.adobe.com/security/products/flash-player/apsa1...

I like to unwind occasionally with browser based flash games so this is not an option for me.

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Re: YouTube now defaults to HTML5 video

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Post by rev_bird »

SeanDav wrote: post #21
toddsiegel wrote: post #17

I've kept Flash around for the oddball site here and there that still requires it, but this week I decided to uninstall rather than patch it[1]. [1] - https://helpx.adobe.com/security/products/flash-player/apsa1...

I like to unwind occasionally with browser based flash games so this is not an option for me.

Glad I'm not the only one. The most relaxing way I know of to open up strange, frequent security vulnerabilities.

Re: YouTube now defaults to HTML5 video

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Post by jfb »

simlevesque wrote: post #28
jfb wrote: post #23

Well, now I can delete Chrome.

I fail to see the relation between the OP and your message.

The only reason I kept Chrome around is because I occasionally wanted to watch Youtube videos that were Flash only. I wasn't going to install Flash system-wide, so I was grateful for Google's approach of maintaining a private Flash instance. Now, that usecase is become less of a problem, so I can ditch Chrome, which I never used otherwise.

Re: YouTube now defaults to HTML5 video

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Post by ramy_d »

simlevesque wrote: post #28
jfb wrote: post #23

Well, now I can delete Chrome.

I fail to see the relation between the OP and your message.

He's saying his only use of chrome, a browser OP does not prefer, was for flash. Now that OP's primary method of media consumption has switched away from flash, so can OP switch away from chrome.

Re: YouTube now defaults to HTML5 video

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Post by micampe »

tosseraccount wrote: post #30
tosseraccount wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Steve may have been a tad unrepresentative that "open video" issue. Remember, this is the guy that controlled QuickTime and never opened it up. That was a bit of problem for open video supporters. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Francisco_Canyon_Company

From Apple itself ... "proprietary acceleration techniques" http://web.archive.org/web/20010605082836/www.pa.msu.edu/~ha...

> Thursday, February 9, 1995

Steve Jobs was not at Apple between 1985 and 1997.

Re: YouTube now defaults to HTML5 video

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Post by tosseraccount »

micampe wrote: post #19
tosseraccount wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not so fast there ... This registration authority for code-points in "MP4 Family" files is Apple Inc. and it is named in Annex D (informative) in MPEG-4 Part 12.[18] (from your link) Apple did in fact control Quicktime AND keep it very proprietary. To insinuate that they were pro open source on video is revisionism.

That just means that Apple manages this list: http://www.mp4ra.org/atoms.html The file format is still an ISO standard and pretty much anything reads it. Even Apple itself doesn't use the Quicktime container anymore (and hasn't for years). I didn't insinuate anything regarding open source, which doesn't appear anywhere in the part I quoted. Edit: Oh, I noticed you significantly modified your first comment, that's why…

And got whacked for it.

Re: YouTube now defaults to HTML5 video

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Post by barbs »

Grazester wrote: post #27

HTML 5 videos on youtube take forever to start for me and would just stay at a buffering screen when I use the seekbar. This is in Chrome. I haven't tried another browser but it has made my youtube experience terrible compared to what is use to be with Flash.

Interesting. I must've switched on HTML5 streaming ages ago and forgotten about it because I wasn't able to tell it was using flash until I right-clicked the video. I was pretty surprised at how stable it had been.

Re: YouTube now defaults to HTML5 video

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Post by tosseraccount »

tosseraccount wrote: post #30
tosseraccount wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Steve may have been a tad unrepresentative that "open video" issue. Remember, this is the guy that controlled QuickTime and never opened it up. That was a bit of problem for open video supporters. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Francisco_Canyon_Company

From Apple itself ... "proprietary acceleration techniques" http://web.archive.org/web/20010605082836/www.pa.msu.edu/~ha...

https://lists.apple.com/archives/QuickTime-VR/2004/Jul/msg00...

More than 250 million copies of QuickTime 6 have been downloaded in > less than two years since its release. According to Frost & Sullivans > 2004 Global Media Streaming Platform Report, between 2002 and 2003 > Microsofts and Real Networks worldwide market share percentages were > either stable or declining while QuickTimes market share increased to > 36.8 percent, a close second to Microsoft. Real Networks came in third > place with less than 25 percent of the worldwide streaming market > share.

Apple was never an "open source/open technology" white knight in video.

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