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Google Fiber is coming to Atlanta, Charlotte, Nashville and Raleigh-Durham

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Re: Google Fiber is coming to Atlanta, Charlotte, Nashville and Raleigh-Durham

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Is there any rime or reason to the cities that Google chooses to put fiber into? Is it a matter of more friendly local government, less resistant local teleco's, a combination thereof or some other factors? Just seems the locations aren't exactly tech hubs so I'm trying to get a better idea of how the expansion works.

Nashville, at least, has an insane amount of healthcare tech jobs at the moment. I don't know about the other cities, though.

Re: Google Fiber is coming to Atlanta, Charlotte, Nashville and Raleigh-Durham

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post #16

Is there any rime or reason to the cities that Google chooses to put fiber into? Is it a matter of more friendly local government, less resistant local teleco's, a combination thereof or some other factors? Just seems the locations aren't exactly tech hubs so I'm trying to get a better idea of how the expansion works.

Friendly local government is a big factor.

For example: Google looked at Seattle's NIMBY laws regarding utility boxes on sidewalks (each requiring a lengthy community approval process) and said, "Nope!"

Seattle's new mayor is now looking how to streamline the process to make the city more Google friendly, should the opportunity arise again.

Re: Google Fiber is coming to Atlanta, Charlotte, Nashville and Raleigh-Durham

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post #16

Is there any rime or reason to the cities that Google chooses to put fiber into? Is it a matter of more friendly local government, less resistant local teleco's, a combination thereof or some other factors? Just seems the locations aren't exactly tech hubs so I'm trying to get a better idea of how the expansion works.

The RTP area has a large tech industry for the size of the area. SAS, epic games, redhat hq, cisco, ibm, netapp, emc, blah blah blah are all there.

They also have incredibly shitty ISPs, and lots of land to build out other ISPs.

Re: Google Fiber is coming to Atlanta, Charlotte, Nashville and Raleigh-Durham

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post #16

Is there any rime or reason to the cities that Google chooses to put fiber into? Is it a matter of more friendly local government, less resistant local teleco's, a combination thereof or some other factors? Just seems the locations aren't exactly tech hubs so I'm trying to get a better idea of how the expansion works.

The reason Kansas City was selected was supposedly because they were the most willing to give access to utility poles and let google dig up streets/alleys where necessary to run the fibre. I don't know if that's the case with these more recent expansions, but i suspect it is.

Re: Google Fiber is coming to Atlanta, Charlotte, Nashville and Raleigh-Durham

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post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's what happened when GMail offered 2 GB inboxes. The competition got serious.

I completely forgot about that. I remember having some POS 100Mb account with hotmail and upgrading to Gmail was a godsend. I think I bought an invite on ebay.

You paid Google so they could have access to all your email data?

Re: Google Fiber is coming to Atlanta, Charlotte, Nashville and Raleigh-Durham

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post #6

For anyone interested... the whole motivation of Google Fiber to motivate ISPs to stop gouging us does exactly what it is designed to do. Cox, in Phoenix, miraculously doubled everyone's speeds > 100mbps last year because they were concerned with our general happiness levels and wanted to show their affection. Nope... that's not it. Ran into two leads at Smash Burger in June of 2014 and asked them on the spot "When a…

Given that reality one wonder why the incumbents don't raise all their speeds to dissuade google from entering there various markets. Perhaps the shear magnitude of their collective greed obscures their reasoning?

Fighting back isn't free. They have to upgrade infrastructure, and send out new modems. This means they are only going to fight if they have to.

Re: Google Fiber is coming to Atlanta, Charlotte, Nashville and Raleigh-Durham

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post #16

Is there any rime or reason to the cities that Google chooses to put fiber into? Is it a matter of more friendly local government, less resistant local teleco's, a combination thereof or some other factors? Just seems the locations aren't exactly tech hubs so I'm trying to get a better idea of how the expansion works.

Raleigh-Durham, Austin, and to a lesser extent Provo, are definitely regional tech hubs.

Another interesting observation is that all four of the new cities surround Chattanooga, TN which has had municipal gigabit fiber for years now. I wonder if that had anything to do with Google's decision-making process.

Re: Google Fiber is coming to Atlanta, Charlotte, Nashville and Raleigh-Durham

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post #30

Can any Google fiber user tell us how the TV offerings differ from Comcast/Uverse/TWC/Direct TV? Do they include local channels and other channels I've come to expect? What is missing from Google TV?

Here is the TV lineup for Kansas city Google fiber customers. Looks like they have all the local and traditional channels. Then add-ons like HBO for $20/month.

https://fiber.google.com/cities/kansascity/channels/

Re: Google Fiber is coming to Atlanta, Charlotte, Nashville and Raleigh-Durham

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post #20

Man, that map is impossible to read. Even as a fairly mildly colorblind person, there's no way I can distinguish the colors.

Perhaps you're not color blind enough. :-) I'm much more than mildly color blind and I can distinguish the legend items just fine. Certainly more so than most graphs/maps I see.

Re: Google Fiber is coming to Atlanta, Charlotte, Nashville and Raleigh-Durham

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post #19
post #6

For anyone interested... the whole motivation of Google Fiber to motivate ISPs to stop gouging us does exactly what it is designed to do. Cox, in Phoenix, miraculously doubled everyone's speeds > 100mbps last year because they were concerned with our general happiness levels and wanted to show their affection. Nope... that's not it. Ran into two leads at Smash Burger in June of 2014 and asked them on the spot "When a…

Given that reality one wonder why the incumbents don't raise all their speeds to dissuade google from entering there various markets. Perhaps the shear magnitude of their collective greed obscures their reasoning?

Because you're talking about a few cities affected, while the incumbents have a very large number of them in their markets. Waiting to get the names, and changing only those, allow them to keep milking cities where google fiber is not coming (which is most of their market).
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