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"When going through hell, keep going".

I saw that, great quote. I also love its corollary, "If you are digging yourself into a hole, first stop digging."

Not sure what the word is, but I don't think its "corollary." Its the anti-corollary.

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I live in australia and I have 4kwh of solar panels on my unoccluded WNW facing roof. My electricity grid connection charge is around $300 AUD per year (around USD 250 per year at current rates - which is about the same as my annual electricity bill since I currently feed into the grid at the wholesale rate). Given a 10 year payback time, how long will it take until a battery array with say two days headroom and a small generator is cost effective for me? Say I'm prepared to pay double that in order to mitigate market risk?

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I saw that, great quote. I also love its corollary, "If you are digging yourself into a hole, first stop digging."

Not sure what the word is, but I don't think its "corollary." Its the anti-corollary.

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Does anyone know why Musk believes so strongly that robot overlords are a serious threat? I don't understand how wasting any time worrying about AI taking over, Terminator-style, is productive. We're not going to be developing Strong AI any time soon, so it's simply not a problem worth worrying about. And if we do, the Strong AI won't be in any position to "take over." It probably won't even want to take over. That's a very human trait, and Strong AI wouldn't be human.

I'm wondering whether he was tricked by someone at DeepMind, perhaps the same way people were tricked hundreds of years ago into thinking a chess-playing robot was possible.

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In the US, up-vote for Challenger Schools (at least circa 1980's). They teach successful behaviors and are worth every penny. (Reaching and accelerating kids early is important.)

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One thing I'd have liked to ask if I hadn't missed the window of opportunity would be regarding his desire to go to Mars himself. I have often wondered about the psychological effects of being effectively stranded on a barren, lifeless planet potentially for the rest of your life. On Earth, we can "get away from it all" and go to the country, go camping near a nice stream, listen to birds sing, go for a swim in the o…

Throughout history men have probably lived through worse conditions, either while being prisoners of war, stranded on a desert island and whatnot.

The way to cope with such harsh conditions is, I suppose, always the same : hope of escaping and returning home.

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Does anyone know why Musk believes so strongly that robot overlords are a serious threat? I don't understand how wasting any time worrying about AI taking over, Terminator-style, is productive. We're not going to be developing Strong AI any time soon, so it's simply not a problem worth worrying about. And if we do, the Strong AI won't be in any position to "take over." It probably won't even want to take over. That's…

As far as I can tell, you have two main objections to prioritizing worrying about Strong AI:

1) Strong AI is very far away, so no use worrying about it yet.

2) Strong AI if developed will not be likely to take over.

to which I would counterpoint with:

1) Sure, but when it happens, it will only happen once and thereafter will likely be out of our hands and control. Thinking about the groundwork that needs to go into safely developing an AI is cheap relative to the opportunity cost of getting it wrong. Prevention, cure, etc.

2) If developed, Strong AI will likely have SOME goal. It's not that a Strong AI will actively seek to rule humans, it will just have aims that will likely consider us as disposable as ants. To quote Yudkowsky:

"The AI does not hate you, nor does it love you, but you are made out of atoms which it can use for something else."

- https://intelligence.org/files/AIPosNegFactor.pdf (Artificial Intelligence as a Positive and Negative Factor in Global Risk)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's actually a country song.

Musk attributes it to Churchill though I don't think anybody has found any evidence that the prime minister ever said it. The earliest evidence anybody can find of the phrase came from the 90s.

Forbes has an article on Churchill using these words.[0]

[0] http://www.forbes.com/sites/geoffloftus/2012/05/09/if-youre-...

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