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Re: Uber Driver Accused of Raping Passenger in Boston

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Recently-reported rapes by traditional taxi drivers that haven't been on the front page of HN: http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2014/12/11/cab... http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2014/12/tourist_says_cab... http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/Cab-Driver-Arrested-for-S... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2844528/Taxi-driver-...

They don't involve a "startup" whose raison d'etre is to bypass regulation and break laws in order to achieve competitive advantage.

Re: Uber Driver Accused of Raping Passenger in Boston

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Key word here is accused. Nothing is proven yet so let's not jump to conclusions. Also as asn0 has said, traditional taxis have more rape issues and they have nowhere near the level of record keeping Uber does to help authorities solve these issues.

Why would someone falsely accuse an Uber driver of rape? Humor me.

Re: Uber Driver Accused of Raping Passenger in Boston

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post #32

Key word here is accused. Nothing is proven yet so let's not jump to conclusions. Also as asn0 has said, traditional taxis have more rape issues and they have nowhere near the level of record keeping Uber does to help authorities solve these issues.

Why would someone falsely accuse an Uber driver of rape? Humor me.

Why would Uber call in false ride requests to a competitor?

Re: Uber Driver Accused of Raping Passenger in Boston

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It's important that we forgive Uber for these unfortunate incidents. It's wrong to pick on an innocent company for the misdeeds of a few employees.

The question is, for any taxi service, how many rapes we define as acceptable before we start insisting on specific, effective measures to improve safety. It cannot be axiomatic that it is not fair to ask Uber ever to do anything to make their service safer.

Re: Uber Driver Accused of Raping Passenger in Boston

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post #31
post #12

Recently-reported rapes by traditional taxi drivers that haven't been on the front page of HN: http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2014/12/11/cab... http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2014/12/tourist_says_cab... http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/Cab-Driver-Arrested-for-S... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2844528/Taxi-driver-...

They don't involve a "startup" whose raison d'etre is to bypass regulation and break laws in order to achieve competitive advantage.

It's not like they're dumping toxic waste. I'm extremely grateful that Uber has the balls to break taxi laws, because taxi laws used to have a distinctly negative impact on my life (namely that I was forced to take taxis).

Re: Uber Driver Accused of Raping Passenger in Boston

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Recently-reported rapes by traditional taxi drivers that haven't been on the front page of HN: http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2014/12/11/cab... http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2014/12/tourist_says_cab... http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/Cab-Driver-Arrested-for-S... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2844528/Taxi-driver-...

This is entirely the fault of CEO Travis Kalanick who should be fired immediately. Once a narrative develops around a company (such as "Exxon hates the environment" or "GM makes dangerous cars") then the narrative takes on a life of its own, and it takes many years of hard work for a company to dispel that narrative from the mind of the public. For a young company like Uber to already develop a narrative like that suggests very bad public relations management on the part of the CEO of Uber. Kalanick allowed a great many separate threads (sexism in the workplace, in Kalanick's personal life, in the relationships of the drivers to the passengers, etc) to coalesce. This is from his interview with GQ magazine:

"Not to make assumptions, but Kalanick probably wasn’t the first kid in his class to lose his virginity. But the way he talks now—which is large—he’s surely making up for lost time. When I tease him about his skyrocketing desirability, he deflects with a wisecrack about women on demand: “Yeah, we call that Boob-er.” "

It's funny up until the moment that it isn't. Kalanick should go, and Uber should get a CEO who can credibly promise to take issues of safety seriously.

Re: Uber Driver Accused of Raping Passenger in Boston

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yup, exactly. As someone with loved ones in Cambridge who use Uber constantly, and is therefore extremely distressed by rapists prowling their neighborhoods... thank god for Uber. I'm a tall, professional male with a law degree who's never intoxicated or high. Even then, I've had many cabs do shady stuff in NYC and even I couldn't recall who drove me, if the driver's license (if displayed at all) matched the driver's…

Most taxi companies in big cities track their cars with GPS these days. It's really too cheap not to do it these days. They've already got cellular transmitters in them for credit card processing, so adding a GPS phone-home isn't incredibly costly.

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Re: Uber Driver Accused of Raping Passenger in Boston

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Recently-reported rapes by traditional taxi drivers that haven't been on the front page of HN: http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2014/12/11/cab... http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2014/12/tourist_says_cab... http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/Cab-Driver-Arrested-for-S... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2844528/Taxi-driver-...

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Re: Uber Driver Accused of Raping Passenger in Boston

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post #32

Key word here is accused. Nothing is proven yet so let's not jump to conclusions. Also as asn0 has said, traditional taxis have more rape issues and they have nowhere near the level of record keeping Uber does to help authorities solve these issues.

Why would someone falsely accuse an Uber driver of rape? Humor me.

I don't think this is a fair question. Just because you (or any single person) cannot think of a reason, does not mean that a reason does not exist. It doesn't mean a reason exists, either. The point is - we don't know. It's a question and needs an answer before we draw conclusions.

Re: Uber Driver Accused of Raping Passenger in Boston

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this is not simply a problem of 'at least two' uber drivers having been charged with raping passengers since sunday, but the fact that it is symptomatic of a pattern of flouting laws in boston (and other areas certainly). here in the bean uber has already been convicted of making up $10 airport passenger fees when the commonwealth itself only enforces ~$3 (and then only on licensed cabs). rape is not a disease specific to uber and it certainly afflicts the larger livery industry, but kalanick's brand of deregulation and aggressive 'asshole capitalism' arguably provides a perfect stew for these crimes to occur. it's only worse for the fact that they are publicly known and still think they can get away with it
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