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The Death and Life of the 13-Month Calendar

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Re: The Death and Life of the 13-Month Calendar

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Post by function_seven »

NoMoreNicksLeft wrote: post #26
function_seven wrote: post #21

From the article: > Easter would fall on April 15 every year on Cotsworth's calendar I don't understand why this would be. Can someone explain?

Easter is tied to the days of the week, it's always on a Sunday. So it's going to be week-aligned. This calendar aligns months with weeks. Months are always exactly 4 weeks.

But Easter moves around quite a bit during the year, sometimes being on the 83rd day of the year (in 2008), sometimes on the 110th day of the year (2014), and various dates between. I don't see how changing to a 13 month calendar would affect the first full moon after the spring Equinox, since the lunar cycle doesn't mesh with the solar one.

Re: The Death and Life of the 13-Month Calendar

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Post by function_seven »

cvburgess wrote: post #6

I really like this idea - it makes scheduling things a whole lot easier. I also like the concepts of the one week month and "year day" - for some reason I feel like I'd get more pumped about year day than I'll ever get about new years.

I didn't see anything about a one-week month on there, but the diagrams sure make it look that way.

Re: The Death and Life of the 13-Month Calendar

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Post by NoMoreNicksLeft »

function_seven wrote: post #31
NoMoreNicksLeft wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Easter is tied to the days of the week, it's always on a Sunday. So it's going to be week-aligned. This calendar aligns months with weeks. Months are always exactly 4 weeks.

But Easter moves around quite a bit during the year, sometimes being on the 83rd day of the year (in 2008), sometimes on the 110th day of the year (2014), and various dates between. I don't see how changing to a 13 month calendar would affect the first full moon after the spring Equinox, since the lunar cycle doesn't mesh with the solar one.

> I don't see how changing to a 13 month calendar would affect the first full moon after the spring Equinox, since the lunar cycle doesn't mesh with the solar one.

Just checked... you seem to be correct. The lunar calendar isn't aligned with this well enough. While the equinox date is fixed, the first full moon after that should bounce around by several days at least. Even allowing that it's always the Sunday after that, it still seems as if it could fluctuate by a week in either direction.

Re: The Death and Life of the 13-Month Calendar

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Post by frogpelt »

In addition to the 13 month calendar, I wish the year started in March or April. The beginning of Spring* makes more sense for a new year than the middle of winter.

*I realize this is only true in the northern hemisphere, but 90% of the world's population lives in the Northern Hemisphere. The other 10% can start their year in the Fall.

Re: The Death and Life of the 13-Month Calendar

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Post by imroot »

This is a little bit different from the accounting 13 month calendar -- an "Adjustment" month that usually falls in the next FY that the accounting/auditors can do adjustments and still have 'true' dates on everything.

Honestly, having another month to pay bills (and you know that nobody's going to pro-rate everything down to 13 months) isn't really appealing right now, nor would the additional overhead of two more payroll cycles.

Logically, it makes sense, though.

Re: The Death and Life of the 13-Month Calendar

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Post by jeffasinger »

estel wrote: post #28
latortuga wrote: post #7

This would complicate anything that is paid for monthly, including but not limited to: employee salaries, rent/mortgage, subscriptions, utilities, etc. Do we just ignore Sol for those purposes or roll it into another month? Having your birthday perpetually on a wednesday would also not be so much fun. Perhaps "year day" could shift every year forward by 1 week day - year day could be Monday and then Jan 1 of the next…

Don't some companies already run salary in thirteen four week periods? I've worked at at least one that did.

I'm not 100% sure, but in the US, this is relatively rare, as it's required in most situations to be paid at least 2 times per month.

I think all but 5 states have laws dictating pay frequency, and in most cases they require at least two times a month pay frequency.

The most popular pay schedules tend to be 24, 26, and 52 times per year.

EDIT: This was supposed to be a reply to redblacktree. State law examples: - http://www.dir.ca.gov/dlse/faq_paydays.htm - http://labor.ny.gov/legal/counsel/pdf/frequency-of-pay-frequ...

Re: The Death and Life of the 13-Month Calendar

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Post by redblacktree »

imroot wrote: post #36

This is a little bit different from the accounting 13 month calendar -- an "Adjustment" month that usually falls in the next FY that the accounting/auditors can do adjustments and still have 'true' dates on everything. Honestly, having another month to pay bills (and you know that nobody's going to pro-rate everything down to 13 months) isn't really appealing right now, nor would the additional overhead of two more p…

For what it's worth, I'm already paid for 26 pay cycles each year, and I work at a company of 30k+.

Re: The Death and Life of the 13-Month Calendar

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Post by JoeAltmaier »

estel wrote: post #28
latortuga wrote: post #7

This would complicate anything that is paid for monthly, including but not limited to: employee salaries, rent/mortgage, subscriptions, utilities, etc. Do we just ignore Sol for those purposes or roll it into another month? Having your birthday perpetually on a wednesday would also not be so much fun. Perhaps "year day" could shift every year forward by 1 week day - year day could be Monday and then Jan 1 of the next…

Don't some companies already run salary in thirteen four week periods? I've worked at at least one that did.

I got paid that way in CA for years. But that was 20 years ago.
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