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Newsletter #4 – Thanksvimming Day

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Re: Newsletter #4 – Thanksvimming Day

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Post by davis »

noir_lord wrote: post #28
davis wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That was the originally submitted title by Spiritus until a HN mod changed it due to inane policy that the title of the submission must match the title of the webpage.

> due to inane policy that the title of the submission must match the title of the webpage. Not inane, it prevents editorializing, You know the stuff like "Democrats plan to kill more babies" when the Title is "Democrats propose adding more birth control methods".

It was inane in this case which is what I meant as it just addd a few quantifiers for more context. I totally agree with preventing editorializing though so thanks for pointing that out.

Re: Newsletter #4 – Thanksvimming Day

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Post by uvee »

I've been a vim user for a while now, recently started my move over to emacs (evil mode is not bad at all), mostly influenced by the Clojure community.

What does neovim do for a not so hardcore user like me who's happy with the current state of affairs? Or in other words, what am I not doing right with vim that I fail to see what neovim offers, apart from a modern code base and may be a better way of writing plugins?

Re: Newsletter #4 – Thanksvimming Day

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Post by CodyReichert »

uvee wrote: post #32

I've been a vim user for a while now, recently started my move over to emacs (evil mode is not bad at all), mostly influenced by the Clojure community. What does neovim do for a not so hardcore user like me who's happy with the current state of affairs? Or in other words, what am I not doing right with vim that I fail to see what neovim offers, apart from a modern code base and may be a better way of writing plugins?

I would say an easier way to create plugins is a pretty big advantage. For some reason I've always been deterred from writing vim plugins, and like you I started using Emacs a few months ago (mostly for the haskell packages), and I feel so much more comfortable writing and editing my own extensions. I've never really looked into neovim, but they're plugin architecture looks really nice so I'll have to check it out.

Re: Newsletter #4 – Thanksvimming Day

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Post by uvee »

CodyReichert wrote: post #33
uvee wrote: post #32

I've been a vim user for a while now, recently started my move over to emacs (evil mode is not bad at all), mostly influenced by the Clojure community. What does neovim do for a not so hardcore user like me who's happy with the current state of affairs? Or in other words, what am I not doing right with vim that I fail to see what neovim offers, apart from a modern code base and may be a better way of writing plugins?

I would say an easier way to create plugins is a pretty big advantage. For some reason I've always been deterred from writing vim plugins, and like you I started using Emacs a few months ago (mostly for the haskell packages), and I feel so much more comfortable writing and editing my own extensions. I've never really looked into neovim, but they're plugin architecture looks really nice so I'll have to check it out.

Nice! did some digging: https://github.com/neovim/neovim/wiki/Plugin-UI-architecture

That's actually pretty nice, was wondering if there are real tools/apps/interfaces out there which are using this as just a POC or a demo.

This is also interesting btw: https://github.com/neovim/python-client will definitely give that a try!

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Post by fmoralesc »

uvee wrote: post #34
CodyReichert wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would say an easier way to create plugins is a pretty big advantage. For some reason I've always been deterred from writing vim plugins, and like you I started using Emacs a few months ago (mostly for the haskell packages), and I feel so much more comfortable writing and editing my own extensions. I've never really looked into neovim, but they're plugin architecture looks really nice so I'll have to check it out.

Nice! did some digging: https://github.com/neovim/neovim/wiki/Plugin-UI-architecture That's actually pretty nice, was wondering if there are real tools/apps/interfaces out there which are using this as just a POC or a demo. This is also interesting btw: https://github.com/neovim/python-client will definitely give that a try!

Some plugins that target neovim:

- Floobits: https://github.com/Floobits/floobits-neovim

- Neomake: https://github.com/benekastah/neomake

I recently added neovim support to vim-pandoc. These[1] two lines replaced [2] and [3]. It's quite the improvement.

[1]: https://github.com/vim-pandoc/vim-pandoc/blob/master/pythonx...

[2]: https://github.com/vim-pandoc/vim-pandoc/blob/master/pythonx...

[3]: https://github.com/vim-pandoc/vim-pandoc/blob/master/pythonx...

Re: Newsletter #4 – Thanksvimming Day

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Post by uvee »

fmoralesc wrote: post #35
uvee wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nice! did some digging: https://github.com/neovim/neovim/wiki/Plugin-UI-architecture That's actually pretty nice, was wondering if there are real tools/apps/interfaces out there which are using this as just a POC or a demo. This is also interesting btw: https://github.com/neovim/python-client will definitely give that a try!

Some plugins that target neovim: - Floobits: https://github.com/Floobits/floobits-neovim - Neomake: https://github.com/benekastah/neomake I recently added neovim support to vim-pandoc. These[1] two lines replaced [2] and [3]. It's quite the improvement. [1]: https://github.com/vim-pandoc/vim-pandoc/blob/master/pythonx... [2]: https://github.com/vim-pandoc/vim-pandoc/blob/master/pythonx... [3]: https://github.com/vim-…

Nice!

Re: Newsletter #4 – Thanksvimming Day

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Post by Spink »

I'm a Windows user, and even I'm not able to use Neovim yet, I'll try to contribute. If you are an experienced developer or inexperienced but wanting to learn, visit the GitHub repo and check out the readme, contribute guide, and finally the Wiki to learn more.

Re: Newsletter #4 – Thanksvimming Day

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Post by uint32 »

uvee wrote: post #32

I've been a vim user for a while now, recently started my move over to emacs (evil mode is not bad at all), mostly influenced by the Clojure community. What does neovim do for a not so hardcore user like me who's happy with the current state of affairs? Or in other words, what am I not doing right with vim that I fail to see what neovim offers, apart from a modern code base and may be a better way of writing plugins?

For me the biggest advantage will be the support for embedding in other programs, so we can do away with the proliferation of imperfect vim emulators.

Re: Newsletter #4 – Thanksvimming Day

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Post by kolme »

btipling wrote: post #21
bru wrote: post #19

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That was months ago actually. I just retried and it works perfectly, but it's still synchronous and blocks the UI. This is what I expect from neovim: provide me with async lint/checks. The only ongoing works on the problem I've seen are https://github.com/scrooloose/syntastic/issues/1253 and https://github.com/benekastah/neomake , which I've not tried yet.

> This is what I expect from neovim: provide me with async lint/checks. It would have to be written using the new remote-plugin architecture I'd think. Plugins that were written for Vim would always be synchronous.

Not necessarily. The original patch Tarruda tried to get merged into Vim provided asynchronous commands in pure Vimscript (through a new kind of event for autocmd).

I would guess this feature is already in NeoVim.

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