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How Drinking Bottled Water Became a Thing

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Re: How Drinking Bottled Water Became a Thing

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post #13

The downside of bottled water is BPA from the plastic container that is released when exposed to sunlight/heat but the downside of tap water is that you can't control the level of nitrites, PH levels, chlorine and debris from building pipes.

But you can get a lot of that out of your tap water with a filter, which in my opinion makes tap water the healthier choice.

Re: How Drinking Bottled Water Became a Thing

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The reason why I finally switched to only drinking bottled spring water is because of things like hexavalent chromium, which appears to be very prevalent in the Bay Area for some reason. The Bay Area has an amount which is hundreds of times higher than the maximum recommended amount.

http://blogs.ei.columbia.edu/2010/12/30/chromium-6-found-in-...

I might explore a home filtration system at some point, though, if it is cost effective and reliable.

Re: How Drinking Bottled Water Became a Thing

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I know expecting rigorous science from an entertainment program is always asking a bit much, but the Penn & Teller gourmet-water prank always struck me as flawed given the social dynamics at play. Most people in that situation are going to feel some social pressure to acknowledge some sort of qualities in what they are being served, whether from fear of appearing unsophisticated or simply out of a desire to be polite…

It's been pretty well documented that presentation affects the perception of taste. Adding some fancy adjectives (and possibly a fancy price) to the menu can make people perceive the food as tasting better. I believe it's been shown to work with wine too. So it's not surprising that the same thing can happen with water.

Re: How Drinking Bottled Water Became a Thing

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The crazy thing about Fiji water is that it is actually bottled in Fiji and shipped around the world. So now even plain potable water can have a significant carbon footprint.

All the more reason to buy locally-sourced bottled water. I have Eldorado Natural Spring Water (http://www.eldoradosprings.com/) delivered, which actually comes from a local natural artesian spring.

Re: How Drinking Bottled Water Became a Thing

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This is why I drink bottled water.

"The documents reveal that the wastewater, which is sometimes hauled to sewage plants not designed to treat it and then discharged into rivers that supply drinking water, contains radioactivity at levels higher than previously known, and far higher than the level that federal regulators say is safe for these treatment plants to handle."

"...some sewage treatment plants were incapable of removing certain drilling waste contaminants and were probably violating the law."

"radioactivity in drilling waste cannot be fully diluted in rivers and other waterways."

And the EPA has not intervened.

from http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/27/us/27gas.html

Also:

"Environmental officials in Pennsylvania have failed to adequately regulate the state’s booming natural gas industry, a state report said, reflecting what critics say is weak oversight of the oil and gas industry at a time when drilling is spreading across the United States."

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/24/us/pennsylvanias-auditor-g...

Re: How Drinking Bottled Water Became a Thing

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post #25

It all depends on what tap water you compare it with. In many places in the US I’ve been, the tap water was heavily chlorinated, and that’s not exactly a subtle taste note in the water.

Simply fill a jug of that heavily chlorinated water and put it in the fridge, all the chlorine will evaporate after few hours. You will get free, cold and good tasting water always available. No need for filter.

I don't know how it is in the US in particular, but in addition to Chlorine, tap water usually contains Al, Cu traces, lacks Ca and Mg and is low on bicarbonates.

So not only tap water already lacks compared to mineral, just letting it gas out, although can help with taste, is not enough to ensure quality, a filter is recommended. I don't know why you claim a filter is not necessary, I've never seen that.

Re: How Drinking Bottled Water Became a Thing

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It's a well-known fact that New York City tap water is delicious, even compared to other municipal water supplies.

It's why New York Pizza is so good, it's the minerals in the water.

I'd never heard of that and it's remotely plausible but apparently debunked:

http://slice.seriouseats.com/archives/2010/01/does-nyc-water...

Re: How Drinking Bottled Water Became a Thing

#39

I know expecting rigorous science from an entertainment program is always asking a bit much, but the Penn & Teller gourmet-water prank always struck me as flawed given the social dynamics at play. Most people in that situation are going to feel some social pressure to acknowledge some sort of qualities in what they are being served, whether from fear of appearing unsophisticated or simply out of a desire to be polite…

It's been pretty well documented that presentation affects the perception of taste. Adding some fancy adjectives (and possibly a fancy price) to the menu can make people perceive the food as tasting better. I believe it's been shown to work with wine too. So it's not surprising that the same thing can happen with water.

Also, wine is barely better than water in terms of taste perception. Even wine "experts" can't differentiate wine in a blind test - they've been known to confuse red and white wine, give wildly inconsistent ratings to a single wine over multiple tests, and correlate high ratings with high price - even if the "expensive" wine is really a cheap on with a fake fancy label and price tag.

Re: How Drinking Bottled Water Became a Thing

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Part of the bottled water craze is due to the fact that youngsters are mistakenly made to believe that you will get dehydrated if you take a walk around the block, do your math homework or just sit around. If you don't drink x glasses of water (insert random number for x) your health will be at risk.

So, for those situations where you find yourself with your (BPA-free) water bottle empty of course you're going to spring for a bottle of tap water. And since you're afraid of catching Ebola you're not going to use anyone's tap, it has to be a one-way safe and sanitized bottle.

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