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“I can be tricked by anyone who looks like Mark Zuckerberg”

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Re: “I can be tricked by anyone who looks like Mark Zuckerberg”

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I thought user flags could only kill a post under 10 points?

Why did you think that?

It's in 'jacquesm's unofficial FAQ:

http://jacquesmattheij.com/The+Unofficial+HN+FAQ

See "What do I do when I think something is not HN material?"

Re: “I can be tricked by anyone who looks like Mark Zuckerberg”

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post #31
post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why did you think that?

It's in 'jacquesm's unofficial FAQ: http://jacquesmattheij.com/The+Unofficial+HN+FAQ See "What do I do when I think something is not HN material?"

We're fond of Jacques but don't believe quite everything he says. :)

Flags kill a post at any level whenever there are enough of them.

Re: “I can be tricked by anyone who looks like Mark Zuckerberg”

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It's sad that these sorts of responses are necessary. You'd think journalists would avoid such behavior, but you only start to notice it if you've been in the press.

Typically, resorting to misquoting and misconstruing only happens if a good counterargument to one's actual views can't be found. So I take it as an indicator of good (and possibly controversial) thinking if someone feels forced to respond in this manner.

Sam Harris has become quite experienced at handling this sort of attack, although he's had to spend significant time doing so.[1][2] Any victims of misconstruing might want to follow his style.

1. http://www.samharris.org/blog/item/on-the-mechanics-of-defam...

2. http://www.samharris.org/site/full_text/response-to-controve...

Note: I made a similar comment on the flagkilled version of this article, but I figured I'd respond here since it seems to be the canonical thread.

Re: “I can be tricked by anyone who looks like Mark Zuckerberg”

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post #7

I thought PG was building it into a joke.. the post sounds way too defensive.

Pretty much every single article written this year critical of Silicon Valley/startups/VCs has used the quote. If anything PG should have addressed it sooner.

The issue is that I think most people did not interpret it as PG was saying. "Looks like Zuckerberg", when I first read this title, sounds a lot like "is like Zuckerberg", as in speech styles, personality and the like.

I wish PG would talk more about the cognitive bias in VCs. Too many women have to ask the question "how do I get VCs to take me seriously"

Re: “I can be tricked by anyone who looks like Mark Zuckerberg”

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I thought PG was building it into a joke.. the post sounds way too defensive.

Indeed, it's a good general principle: Defensiveness never works. What does work? Counterattack.

With this post, the foundation has been laid for a counterattack. One way to do it would be to publicly name and shame any credentialed journalist who uses the quote out of context. Don't just be "curious how fixable this sort of bogus meme is"—use your formidable influence and numerous supporters to attack those who attack you.

Re: “I can be tricked by anyone who looks like Mark Zuckerberg”

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I feel sorry for the unnamed YC founder who looks like Mark Zuckerberg and is now learning that he has been the subject of an ongoing joke for the past 4 years. Having a startup fail is hard enough even without having people make jokes about it.

They were making fun of me for talking so much about how he looked like Zuck, not him because the startup did badly. It was arguably not his fault the company did badly; it fell apart due to a cofounder dispute.

I added more detail to that paragraph to make these things clear.

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