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Re: Another Unsolicited HN Redesign

#31
the "frontpage" label was an excellent idea. however, the redesign didn't fix what i feel is the primary flaw with the top bar - user-specific and site-wide entries are not distinguished. i'd redesign it as

[ frontpage | new | show | ask | jobs || new comments || my threads | my submissions | submit ]

or maybe even move the "my" stuff to the right alongside the [ username (karma) | logout ] section.

Re: Another Unsolicited HN Redesign

#32

The hard part of redesigning HN is that we're all so used to the current HN. Changing anything major becomes confusing, defeating the purpose of the redesign. The reason I like this one is because it doesn't break the structure or functionality, but by adjusting the size/prominence of elements it becomes slightly easier to use. I'm not in love with all of it, but it holds true to the core of HN, which is disregarded…

I think this is so true. Not to mention that a lot of the hackers on the site loathe sites that require javascript and will often prevent any script from executing, so the login modal might be useless to a large percentage of the HN community. The current HN design is really awesome because it only uses the most primitive of elements. It's as if, like Austen said, there's no design at all.

Re: Another Unsolicited HN Redesign

#33

I've dealt with more than a few designers handling solicited corporate website redesigns and one of the most critical issues I see back are "That looks really great, but where is our logo?" Yours looks like a fine example of a pretty design but you've trampled all over their brand in favour of your own palette and taste. Different Y, different spacing, different colours. You've designed something for a different comp…

>Telling me "Because I want it to fade in on mouseover" is a fireable offence.

How about, *because it creates incentive to try out the highlight effect and subsequently click, until the novelty wears of, at least.

Re: Another Unsolicited HN Redesign

#34
post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On point 1. I hope you appreciate your angle is pretty oldschool and would beg to strongly disagree. I have read a lot of HN commenters over the past few years commenting on similar designs/redesigns that seem to share your viewpoint and desire for 'information density' and not needing to scroll, but I do suspect your opinion is basically that of a nerdish minority that is going the way of the dinosaur. Scrolling is…

> I do suspect your opinion is basically that of a nerdish minority I am sorry, but it appears you might have some confusion about the demographics and the target demographics. The name, for instance, might give you a promising hint, provided you do little digging about the word 'hacker'. At times it means something that it does not appear to mean.

Well of course, I didn't mean it quite that literally and am a bit sad to see I got downvoted but I guess I did make the point poorly (and mildy aggressively now I read it back).

I should probably just have linked to somewhere the argument has been made before [1].

I'm a nerd and I vastly prefer large type & generous amounts of whitespace over cramming lots of titles on one screen so it saddens me whenever I hear someone authoritatively state the 'information density' argument.

[1] http://uxmyths.com/post/654047943/myth-people-dont-scroll

Re: Another Unsolicited HN Redesign

#35
post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I do suspect your opinion is basically that of a nerdish minority I am sorry, but it appears you might have some confusion about the demographics and the target demographics. The name, for instance, might give you a promising hint, provided you do little digging about the word 'hacker'. At times it means something that it does not appear to mean.

Well of course, I didn't mean it quite that literally and am a bit sad to see I got downvoted but I guess I did make the point poorly (and mildy aggressively now I read it back). I should probably just have linked to somewhere the argument has been made before [1]. I'm a nerd and I vastly prefer large type & generous amounts of whitespace over cramming lots of titles on one screen so it saddens me whenever I hear som…

you put an awful lot of words in my mouth. i didn't mention scrolling. re-read.

the top bar is too large vertically without enough value. readability improves a bit, but the sheer prominence takes away from the discoverability of the first article title.

i didn't mention type size or whitespace. i also like large type and generous amounts of whitespace.

i think you're just looking to argue for the sake of argument.

Re: Another Unsolicited HN Redesign

#36
post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well of course, I didn't mean it quite that literally and am a bit sad to see I got downvoted but I guess I did make the point poorly (and mildy aggressively now I read it back). I should probably just have linked to somewhere the argument has been made before [1]. I'm a nerd and I vastly prefer large type & generous amounts of whitespace over cramming lots of titles on one screen so it saddens me whenever I hear som…

you put an awful lot of words in my mouth. i didn't mention scrolling. re-read. the top bar is too large vertically without enough value. readability improves a bit, but the sheer prominence takes away from the discoverability of the first article title. i didn't mention type size or whitespace. i also like large type and generous amounts of whitespace. i think you're just looking to argue for the sake of argument.

Sorry, I'm not looking for an argument and I didn't mean to put words in your mouth. My original post was badly written and overly argumentative, I think I was in a bad mood and a couple of your points just set off my usual UX'y triggers, I apologise.

You're right that I made the leap from your dislike of the top nav/footer to a dislike of scrolling/desire for 'information density'. Those things are often associated but I was wrong to make that leap. Again, my bad.

I disagree with your points that the header and footer are distracting and detract from the articles, that's it and that's all my original post should have said.

Re: Another Unsolicited HN Redesign

#38
post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

you put an awful lot of words in my mouth. i didn't mention scrolling. re-read. the top bar is too large vertically without enough value. readability improves a bit, but the sheer prominence takes away from the discoverability of the first article title. i didn't mention type size or whitespace. i also like large type and generous amounts of whitespace. i think you're just looking to argue for the sake of argument.

Sorry, I'm not looking for an argument and I didn't mean to put words in your mouth. My original post was badly written and overly argumentative, I think I was in a bad mood and a couple of your points just set off my usual UX'y triggers, I apologise. You're right that I made the leap from your dislike of the top nav/footer to a dislike of scrolling/desire for 'information density'. Those things are often associated…

no worries at all. we all get grumpy sometimes, myself definitely included. enjoy your weekend :)

Re: Another Unsolicited HN Redesign

#39
Thanks for all the suggestions. I consider this a user test, of sorts. The main changes I'm considering are:

- article text readability (this bothered many people) - header height - colors: #FFF-on-#F60 (thanks Oliwarner)

ZEM also brings up a really interesting point about user-specific vs site-wide entries.

Aiming to do a redesign with your suggestions and do more user tests. Thanks again y'all!

Re: Another Unsolicited HN Redesign

#40
post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry, I'm not looking for an argument and I didn't mean to put words in your mouth. My original post was badly written and overly argumentative, I think I was in a bad mood and a couple of your points just set off my usual UX'y triggers, I apologise. You're right that I made the leap from your dislike of the top nav/footer to a dislike of scrolling/desire for 'information density'. Those things are often associated…

no worries at all. we all get grumpy sometimes, myself definitely included. enjoy your weekend :)

Cool, same to you!
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