Is the wifi AP database downloadable somewhere (OSM/Wikipedia style) or is it "cloudlocked" (we can only query it through the API) ?
Mozilla Stumbler 1.0
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Re: Mozilla Stumbler 1.0
#32Will 1.0 be available on the F-Droid store, like earlier versions?
You can already auto-update from within MozStumbler itself.
Re: Mozilla Stumbler 1.0
#33Will this work with WiFi-only tablets? I'd like to contribute but my Kobo Arc device is marked incompatible. I saw in the screenshot on Google Play that there is a WiFi-only report symbol.
I have a LTE Nexus 7, with no SIM, so it is basically a WiFi only, and yes, it works. I couldn't install it from F-Droid and I had to use an apk from github, but it worked like a charm and it auto-updates.
Re: Mozilla Stumbler 1.0
#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
Google provides an opt-out. They will ignore your AP if you append "_nomap" to the end of your SSID. Does Stumbler also support this? If not, why not? Ref: https://support.google.com/maps/answer/1725632?hl=en edit: Found the answer to my own question. Yes, they do support "nomap": https://github.com/mozilla/MozStumbler/issues/149
Is this really a thing? WTF? I feel very ashamed, as someone who works in IT, everytime this happens. I mean, people can opt-out, of course - but, in order to do that, they need to know what an SSID is, and how to change it. What about people who don't? Will we just assume that they don't care or that their opinion doesn't matter?
I guess you have a better suggestion, and am curious to hear about it.
Re: Mozilla Stumbler 1.0
#35Hi all! We cut a 1.0 release of the Mozilla Stumbler finally. Have at it. File the bugs. Complain about battery life. Help us make this thing not suck and build out a proper open location service.
I used to use it a lot a few months back "mapping" my town and I had noticed that it would go at full strength even when I was staying in the same place for hours. Would it be possible to gradually slow down the collections when it detects that the user isn't moving?
There used to be a mode to geo-fence data collection, i.e. harvest only outside of a certain area, but I don't see it anymore.
Re: Mozilla Stumbler 1.0
#36As an Android user, is it possible to modify my phone to use this service instead of Google's? Is it possible to upload the database directly to a phone or replace an APK to achieve this?
The NOGAPPS project lists Mozilla Location Service support as an upcoming feature ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1715375 ).
Great! And although that post was made June 2012 I note it has been maintained and has recent updates.
Re: Mozilla Stumbler 1.0
#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is this really a thing? WTF? I feel very ashamed, as someone who works in IT, everytime this happens. I mean, people can opt-out, of course - but, in order to do that, they need to know what an SSID is, and how to change it. What about people who don't? Will we just assume that they don't care or that their opinion doesn't matter?
I guess you have a better suggestion, and am curious to hear about it.
An option during router setup when SSID is named? An organized promotion of this approach, e.g. list of routers that make it simple, list of services that honor it. A cool name other than "Do Not Track".
Re: Mozilla Stumbler 1.0
#38This is a lot like the Wigle wardrive app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.wigle.wigl...
Re: Mozilla Stumbler 1.0
#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is this really a thing? WTF? I feel very ashamed, as someone who works in IT, everytime this happens. I mean, people can opt-out, of course - but, in order to do that, they need to know what an SSID is, and how to change it. What about people who don't? Will we just assume that they don't care or that their opinion doesn't matter?
I guess you have a better suggestion, and am curious to hear about it.
the obvious option is to request consent instead of violating people's privacy and make a dragnet data collection effort like this opt-in instead of opt-out.
but that's clearly not the intention here, because how dare anyone question someone else's motives/objectives/priorities for collecting data about devices they don't own. in fact, we're supposed to think this is the "nice" version because a google-funded nonprofit is doing it instead of google doing it unlawfully with cars or through waze.
seeing mozilla move in this direction while talking about how much they respect everyone's privacy is a strategic stumble indeed.
Re: Mozilla Stumbler 1.0
#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
I guess you have a better suggestion, and am curious to hear about it.
An option during router setup when SSID is named? An organized promotion of this approach, e.g. list of routers that make it simple, list of services that honor it. A cool name other than "Do Not Track".
That would require an action on the router-side, not on the mapping one. I think it could be a good option, but this doesn't apply for this case.
Also, what if I agree to put my SSID into an open database but not in a locked one? Apple's and Google's location databases do not compare, for me, to Mozilla's one: I am more than glad to be in the latter, but not to be in the two formers.