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Kayak has additional data sources. I don't know the details, but the additional sources is clear enough. This lists a whole bunch: http://www.tnooz.com/article/kayak-to-google-bring-it-on/
Skyscanner ( http://www.skyscanner.net/ ), who are bigger here in Europe, do the same thing as Kayak, only more-so - they have close to a thousand separate data-sources which they can query for prices, and they fall back on ITA and Amadeus only when necessary, because those queries cost more. Tends to result in better prices for the end-user, because the level of competition between vendors is phenomenal. (source: wa…
Travel Search Site Hipmunk (YC S10) Cuts Yahoo Deal
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Re: Travel Search Site Hipmunk (YC S10) Cuts Yahoo Deal
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What other aspects of travel are you thinking of?
Searching for a destination was the first thing that came to my mind after reading the parent comment.
Things like local transportation info/getting around, what to do, where to party, safety info, visa info - and on and on.
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#33I have a simple question: Why are sites like Hipmunk, Kayak etc called "travel search" sites? Travel is far more than booking flights, hotels, cars, cruises and vacation packages At best sites like this are booking sites for xyz but I have a heard time reconciling the appropriateness of "travel search" What am I missing?
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I try Hipmunk every so often, the last time being about a month ago. Every time, Kayak shows more flight options for the same query than Hipmunk, and often cheaper ones. I don't get it, they both use ITA on the backend. I'd use Hipmunk more often if they actually fulfilled their functionality promise as an aggregator. A pretty UI isn't enough.
Hmm, that shouldn't be the case. If you try again and feel like helping us out, feel free to email the discrepancy to support@hipmunk.com. Sometimes there is an explanation (e.g. the flight doesn't exist, or has a 30hr layover), and other times we don't have the flight, in which case we want to alert our providers to fix it.
- Consolidators [that you don't have commercial relationships with] have wholesale arrangements with airlines allowing them to sell tickets below the direct/GDS price. I suspect you're more reliant on ITA results than many other portals or meta-search sites and their prices are trivially easy to beat on competitive routes if you have a broader range of partnerships.
- Some consolidators put together logical itineraries not bookable via GDS or even direct with the airline. As an extreme example I once bought a cheap, logical pair of connecting long haul flights with Saudia via eBookers that Saudia's website wouldn't allow me to book at any price direct with them; I'd guess the airline didn't want to market anything involving a 5 hour layover in an under-redevelopment terminal in Riyadh. There are plenty of less glaringly obvious potential indirect itineraries that consolidators (potentially including Kayak as well as their affiliates) can identify with Innovata's minimum connect time file and schedule data[1] and other providers might have a more liberal view on reasonable connections than ITA
- Sometimes other sites' metasearch results' advantages are purely illusory, based on outdated results they've cached or screenscraped. I find Skyscanner LCC prices are frequently out of date, even though the actual ticket price is also usually cheaper than ITA's. Other sites might also create the appearance of more choice by not combining codeshared flights into one.
As for LON-SYD on Monday Kayak has a lot more results under $1000 than you. It's possible their much cheaper ticket prices with SIA are outdated or geolocation specific, but the cheapest flight they show (a Garuda two-stopper that's no more obviously agonising than your cheapest result but 10% cheaper) doesn't show on your engine at all. Then again, the price with Kayak had risen to only 5% cheaper than your best price when I started the booking process...
[1]disclosure: I sell that data, amongst many other things, although not to OTAs
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#35I have a simple question: Why are sites like Hipmunk, Kayak etc called "travel search" sites? Travel is far more than booking flights, hotels, cars, cruises and vacation packages At best sites like this are booking sites for xyz but I have a heard time reconciling the appropriateness of "travel search" What am I missing?
Because these sites and ours (room77.com) are MetaSearch sites, we search prices from multiple sources and aggregate the information (inventory, content, prices) into one place. Booking sites like Expedia and Priceline are considered OTAs (Online Travel Agency) since they are the entity that sells you the actual inventory whereas metasearch scours the market for the best prices.
To me "travel search" implies everything to do with travel including destination research and more. So whether it's metasearch or OTAs - ultimately the focus is on booking something (is that a correct statement to make?)
To me travel - and certainly travel search should mean more than that
Re: Travel Search Site Hipmunk (YC S10) Cuts Yahoo Deal
#36> Although Hipmunk has raised $40 million in venture capital funding — $20 million of it in May from Oak Investment Partners and others — it decided not to lavish it on television advertising like competitors “because that means going head-to-head against companies spending hundreds of millions a year.” > Mr. Goldstein would not discuss specific financial terms of the company’s deals with Yahoo and Yelp, but said the…
The other factor that I feel doesn't get brought up enough is the attribution piece. How much did they REALLY contribute to bringing a customer vs. all your other marketing efforts, brand awareness that has built up over time, etc.?
In the worst cases, some partners can just be parasitic and leech off bottom of the funnel traffic to maximize their return and minimize their risk. The trick is finding the right balance between all those efforts which requires data, flexibility, and trust between all parties in the relationship.