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"However, the courts sided with the lower police department. In its ruling, the 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in New York ruled that the city did not discriminate against Jordan because the same standards were applied to everyone who took the test. In other words, no one who was deemed “too smart” for the job after taking the intelligence test was hired." You can apply that logic to race too: "We tested ALL appli…
"However, the courts sided with the lower police department. In its ruling, the 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in New York ruled that the city did not discriminate against Jordan because the same standards were applied to everyone who took the test. In other words, no one who was deemed “too smart” for the job after taking the intelligence test was hired." You can apply that logic to race too: "We tested ALL appli…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protected_class
I am not a lawyer, but it sounds like Jordan attempted to argue that intelligence should be considered an additional protected class, like race or religion, but the courts disagreed. Since intelligence isn't a protected class, and since the discrimination was applied equally across all applicants, Jordan didn't have any cause for compensation from the police department.
Your hypothetical situation, screening for blackness, would absolutely not fly since color is a protected class.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
The pool of detectives is typically pulled from line police, isn't it? By restricting the IQ of those enforcing the laws, you're creating a poor candidate pool for detectives.
In France, detectives and police officers have to go the university to study the law and other subjects. I thought it was the same in most countries, isn't it?
Most large cities have their own police academy or there's a regional academy that several cities use. Police academy is usually three or four months of intensive training that new recruits go through (a little like boot camp for the armed forces). After graduating from an academy, the officers are sometimes rotated through probationary assignments and then given a more permanent assignment.
Detectives and other specialists are generally promoted out of the ranks of police officers.
I have a small side business with a friend that has one employee and we're about to hire another one and have long been curious about using the Wonderlic test.
I heard that both cops and taxi drivers aren't suited for creative and theoretical thinkers. Mainly because it's a lot of waiting. They will get bored and quit.
I drove a taxi for a year back in the 90's. Most drivers do play the waiting game, but that wasn't for me. The company I worked for awarded call-ins to the closest cab available rather than whoever waited the longest, which meant that you could develop a strategy of being at the right place at the right time to optimize your fares. This turned out to be a much more lucrative strategy than the sit-and-wait deals. I ra…
Another "advantage" of the inverse cutoff is that it reduces the racial disparity in test-based hiring.
That statement is predicated on the assumption that one race is smarter than another, which is unlikely to be true.
There's a lot of research about how the SAT discriminates against minorities because white people historically wrote the test and that gives whites an edge, intentional or not.
https://www.google.com/search?q=sat+discriminates+against+mi...
I heard that both cops and taxi drivers aren't suited for creative and theoretical thinkers. Mainly because it's a lot of waiting. They will get bored and quit.
I drove a taxi for a year back in the 90's. Most drivers do play the waiting game, but that wasn't for me. The company I worked for awarded call-ins to the closest cab available rather than whoever waited the longest, which meant that you could develop a strategy of being at the right place at the right time to optimize your fares. This turned out to be a much more lucrative strategy than the sit-and-wait deals. I ra…
Does anyone know how much it costs to have a job applicant do the Wonderlic test? I have a small side business with a friend that has one employee and we're about to hire another one and have long been curious about using the Wonderlic test.
Another "advantage" of the inverse cutoff is that it reduces the racial disparity in test-based hiring.
That statement is predicated on the assumption that one race is smarter than another, which is unlikely to be true.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Achievement_gap_in_the_United_...
(FWIW, I recently heard the term "opportunity gap" as an alternative to "achievement gap," and I quite like it: it puts the burden on society to improve education, rather than blaming students for "failing" to surmount inequity.)
"However, the courts sided with the lower police department. In its ruling, the 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in New York ruled that the city did not discriminate against Jordan because the same standards were applied to everyone who took the test. In other words, no one who was deemed “too smart” for the job after taking the intelligence test was hired." You can apply that logic to race too: "We tested ALL appli…
True, but there are specific attributes that constitute classes legally protected against discrimination. Race is one of them. Intelligence is not. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protected_class I am not a lawyer, but it sounds like Jordan attempted to argue that intelligence should be considered an additional protected class, like race or religion, but the courts disagreed. Since intelligence isn't a protected class,…