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Yahoo Lays Off 400 Employees In India

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Re: Yahoo Lays Off 400 Employees In India

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Post by q2 »

It is known that yahoo has identity problems compared to Google/facebook ...etc. If you are a loyal employee, who believes in turnaround and stay till the end, this type of decisions can be painful. He/she may/may not get a chance to US and due to other family reasons may not be willing to relocate.

Loyalty, it seems, does not have any value in modern organizations. Traditionally, in India, job/career is viewed differently than in America. Job indicates some sort of stability to life and these sort of decisions, can crash those views. There are some who misused that stability and there are many who utilized that stability properly and create value to life,society.

I read in news the statements of visiting American CEO's that they understand India,localize their operations ...etc. My suggestion is, in addition to understanding "customer/consumer" aspect of Indians, please understand the other aspects such as society,priorities, values, relative importance ...etc too. If that is the case, organizations will be careful during hiring, making sustainable business models avoiding knee-jerk policies.

Re: Yahoo Lays Off 400 Employees In India

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Post by anirudhan »

My friend and a few more in Yahoo were looking for a job switch for quite some time as there were talks of layoff in the last few months. He got a job a few days back. And he is getting the severance package. I talked with him a few minutes back. He is actually feeling great.

Re: Yahoo Lays Off 400 Employees In India

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Post by themartorana »

q2 wrote: post #31

It is known that yahoo has identity problems compared to Google/facebook ...etc. If you are a loyal employee, who believes in turnaround and stay till the end, this type of decisions can be painful. He/she may/may not get a chance to US and due to other family reasons may not be willing to relocate. Loyalty, it seems, does not have any value in modern organizations. Traditionally, in India, job/career is viewed diffe…

All due respect, but if US companies look at US employees as expendable cost units and not as people, what makes you think they'd have any care for employees in a location they initially came to in order to reduce the cost of hiring US employees? The increase-profits-at-any-cost model hurts the US directly as well.

There isn't a huge cultural difference between India and the US here. Many, if not most people would love a long-term reliable career with a company they could care about and would care about them and their/their family's well being. The only reason we have a new culture of adversarial relationships between employers and employees in the US now is because of the loss of loyalty on the company side.

India is, maybe, just next up to feel the pain of what happens when money is placed above all else - including human suffering.

Re: Yahoo Lays Off 400 Employees In India

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Post by nell »

wsxcde wrote: post #11
tjdetwiler wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wouldn't that be impractical or impossible from a visa standpoint? That seems like a lot of H1Bs in 1 year for a single company.

They might use L1's which AFAIK aren't capped.

L1 visas are terrible. You cannot change employers on an L1 Visa.

Re: Yahoo Lays Off 400 Employees In India

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Post by eli »

dummyfellow wrote: post #28

Does HN adds some weightage for domains, same news from original source( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8420579 ) can't be find on 1st four pages?

It was on the front page, but I (and probably others) flagged it because it looked untrustworthy. And indeed it appears to be pretty far off on the numbers.

That said, what makes it on HN is largely a function of luck.

Re: Yahoo Lays Off 400 Employees In India

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Post by azurezyq »

nell wrote: post #36
wsxcde wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They might use L1's which AFAIK aren't capped.

L1 visas are terrible. You cannot change employers on an L1 Visa.

Years before you can change to H1B the next year in US, but lotteries made all these all changed.

Re: Yahoo Lays Off 400 Employees In India

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Post by gcb0 »

plinkplonk wrote: post #2

Yahoo India was pretty bloated, with layer after layer of management with very high salaries and not much to do. Hard to blame anyone for the decision. There were some really good devs embedded in all that lard, hopefully they'll be fine. Five months severance is pretty generous by Indian standards. That said, even very good engineers don't have as many options here as those in SF have, and not as many job opportunit…

you can say that about any company. any office. google headquarter is full of layers of management with little to do. etc.

the problem with this news is that yahoo, instead of evaluating those layers and managers, took the lazy aproach. then being close to revenue deadlines, made it look twice as lazy.

firing useless layers of management is good. laying off with BS excuses is not.

for example, they laid off people not working well on their instant messager in carsbard, as the article states. but instead of saying so, they called it office cuts, and made life hell for the few folks there working very well from there but not in the lazy team.

and the more random layoffs (as opposed to honest message that some team didnt work out) the good guys get scared and leave, causing more bad guy to be "laid off" in a vicious cycle

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