I've been using vim for 7 years and I've never even attempted to use this mode. Am I missing out?
Remove Ex-Mode from Neovim
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Re: Remove Ex-Mode from Neovim
#32For those who, like me, had never heard of Ex-mode: https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Learning_the_vi_Editor/Vim/Mod...
"... similar to the command line mode ... Unlike the command-line mode you won't return to normal mode automatically ... enter ... by typing a Q in normal mode" So they have a mode you enter when pressing q (which quits many other programs) that you can't leave if you don't know the leave command? This is comedy gold. :D
Re: Remove Ex-Mode from Neovim
#33For those who, like me, had never heard of Ex-mode: https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Learning_the_vi_Editor/Vim/Mod...
"... similar to the command line mode ... Unlike the command-line mode you won't return to normal mode automatically ... enter ... by typing a Q in normal mode" So they have a mode you enter when pressing q (which quits many other programs) that you can't leave if you don't know the leave command? This is comedy gold. :D
Actually, when entering Ex mode you get a little helpful message that says Type "visual" to go to Normal mode.
If you do press "q" though, you're in macro mode, and you don't get any helpful message that tells you that you have to press "q" another time to exit it.
Re: Remove Ex-Mode from Neovim
#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
"... similar to the command line mode ... Unlike the command-line mode you won't return to normal mode automatically ... enter ... by typing a Q in normal mode" So they have a mode you enter when pressing q (which quits many other programs) that you can't leave if you don't know the leave command? This is comedy gold. :D
Not "q", but "Q". Actually, when entering Ex mode you get a little helpful message that says Type "visual" to go to Normal mode . If you do press "q" though, you're in macro mode, and you don't get any helpful message that tells you that you have to press "q" another time to exit it.
Vim always seems like magic to me. I always use nano/pico when I need to edit something in the command line.
Re: Remove Ex-Mode from Neovim
#35For those who, like me, had never heard of Ex-mode: https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Learning_the_vi_Editor/Vim/Mod...
"... similar to the command line mode ... Unlike the command-line mode you won't return to normal mode automatically ... enter ... by typing a Q in normal mode" So they have a mode you enter when pressing q (which quits many other programs) that you can't leave if you don't know the leave command? This is comedy gold. :D
Hah, for many that is Vim itself!
Re: Remove Ex-Mode from Neovim
#36Will a similar conversation happen with Replace mode? I use this mode less than Ex mode and it has a useful key bind (R) that could be recycled.
Re: Remove Ex-Mode from Neovim
#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not "q", but "Q". Actually, when entering Ex mode you get a little helpful message that says Type "visual" to go to Normal mode . If you do press "q" though, you're in macro mode, and you don't get any helpful message that tells you that you have to press "q" another time to exit it.
I see, thanks for the clarification :) Vim always seems like magic to me. I always use nano/pico when I need to edit something in the command line.
Re: Remove Ex-Mode from Neovim
#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
Throw the baby out with the bath water much?
Elaborate, please. (I've gone and elaborated on my own comment. I might have misworded my intent.)
I actually hope that Neovim is temporary and Bram can gracefully accept the Neovim code as the official Vim once Neovim is stable. And Vim can become "Legacy Vim", supporting modes and OSs Neovim doesn't support anymore. Vim itself does the same thing - it has downloads for older versions in order to support MS DOS, for example (I'm not 100% sure about this - the www.vim.org page gives me a "Connection reset" right now - but I remember it doing this).
Re: Remove Ex-Mode from Neovim
#39Re: Remove Ex-Mode from Neovim
#40Removing pretty powerful feature just because author of fork doesn't use it sounds… well, actually author of fork can remove whatever he likes, but presenting neovim like "refactord vim with more features" isn't fair or even plausible in this case. And for what reasons? Oh, I see, it makes code complicated. Did he think vim'c codebase is scary for no reason? Removing all the code from vim would be the ultimate simpli…
Personally, I think this is an excellent change. If neovim remains 100% compatible with vim, down to every minor issue, then it will be very hard to usefully improve. Personally I don't use vim, even though I like the concept of vim, because it simply doesn't fit with the ecosystem I want to use (it seems to be hard to integrate clang for auto-complete and syntax highlighting into vim for example, without long hangs…