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Ignore No More – lock your child's device until they call you back

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Re: Ignore No More – lock your child's device until they call you back

#31

if you have this problem with your child, an app is not the solution. you have serious discipline problems.

I agree the app isn't a solution to disicpline problems, but the problem of a child not calling back is not really a discipline issue. If you have proper trust and be sure to not over-check the child, this isn't as much of an issue - 'hey, that's my mom, she doesn't usually call, i better answer this' is Very easy when the kid has proof. It is also pretty easy to talk to a child to see why they might not have called back and explain why answering from parents is important It also seems that perhaps parents should try switching to text or whatever the child's preferred method of communication - being flexible might bring better responses. None of this is due to actual discipline problems, just miscommunication or inflexible parenting.

Re: Ignore No More – lock your child's device until they call you back

#32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

danah boyd has a (free) book on the responses of teens to network parenting, http://www.danah.org/itscomplicated/ Edit: corrected name capitalization

Huh, I have never seen this, thanks! (OT nitpick: her name is actually 'danah boyd' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danah_Boyd#Early_life )

Thanks for pointing that out, fixed.

Re: Ignore No More – lock your child's device until they call you back

#33
Language is weird, and it's always interesting to see the way people spell things that they've only ever heard, often picking completely different words to construct sentences that sound kinda right but don't actually make any sense with the words they've used (there's a guy here who says "properly" whenever he means to say "probably" for instance).

This is the first time I've seen anybody substitute their own made up word (notta') for nada though.

Re: Ignore No More – lock your child's device until they call you back

#34
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Danger: the front page says the child will always be able to call "first responders," but the FAQ reveals that 911 is the only built-in one which the child cannot change. If you live outside the US, 911 may not work, leaving your child unable to dial emergency services. Adding 112 and 999 to the list would help, but perhaps it's better to just let the kid call whomever they like, and just block "fun" things like text…

Hilariously, there's actually nothing stopping the kid phoning whoever they want. It's controlled by a contact group on the phone, that the child device can edit at will. Step 1 would be to add all friends to that group.

Ha. I guess I'll put it on my son's phone and tell him that there is a "solution" to fully defeat the app. Make a game out of it. (and I'll tell him Mom won't know)

PS this is how you build trust with your kids.

Re: Ignore No More – lock your child's device until they call you back

#36

Products like this are great, as they teach children how to get around stupid arbitrary restrictions from a young age, so are less likely to end up as drooling passive consumers poking at a tablet and more likely to become hackers.

Well, they teach children to google for the answer - which is basically a top life skill at this point. Very few would need to understand the steps, the possible consequences etc so I'm not sure it'll lead to deeper interest or understanding

Re: Ignore No More – lock your child's device until they call you back

#37
post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hilariously, there's actually nothing stopping the kid phoning whoever they want. It's controlled by a contact group on the phone, that the child device can edit at will. Step 1 would be to add all friends to that group.

Ha. I guess I'll put it on my son's phone and tell him that there is a "solution" to fully defeat the app. Make a game out of it. (and I'll tell him Mom won't know) PS this is how you build trust with your kids.

> this is how you build trust with your kids

By turning your partner into a common enemy?

Re: Ignore No More – lock your child's device until they call you back

#39
If you thought your kids didn't like you before, wait until you install something like this on their phone.

Emotions are weird, if you're sitting around worrying about your child then you need a hobby. If it's really a problem that your child goes somewhere without texting you if you asked them to then don't let them go out next time. If they are in college and don't answer your calls, then leave them alone, find something else to do, send them an email if you need to inform them of something or have something you want to discuss.

Kids go through weird phases, they lash out at parents for different reasons such as being unhappy with themselves or struggling to find purpose. Talk to them in person, ask difficult questions, if they don't have an answer, ask again later or ask different questions.

Be a good roll-model by being calm, rational, humble, and honest. I can picture the mom who had the idea for this app, controlling, slightly crazy, comes off as bitchy.

What if your significant other installed a similar app on your phone? Would piss you off, right?

If you want to restrict the games kids play or the sites they visit on their phones, that's probably for the better, be sure to inform them of the logical reasons such as the fact that game companies exploit human psychology to create addiction and many apps upload private information that could harm them later in life. But locking their phones because they haven't called you back, I just can't see how that'll do anything but harm in the long-run.

"Because I said so.", "Do as I say, not as I do.", "Say it, say I love you."

If you kid doesn't answer their phone they are either in class, busy, have it on mute, in jail, dead, getting high, in a loud car, at a party with friends, having sex, eating somewhere, or they just don't want to talk to you at the moment. If they are in jail, they'll call you, if they're dead, then there is nothing you can do about it, you'll find out soon enough. In every other situation it's not that critical that you hear their voice, send them a text message and find something to do.

It might just boil down to positive verses negative reinforcement.

Just my 2 cents about actually using this product as a parent. Looking at it as an app idea, it's a good idea and looks well executed. I'm sure many parents will purchase it.

Re: Ignore No More – lock your child's device until they call you back

#40

Products like this are great, as they teach children how to get around stupid arbitrary restrictions from a young age, so are less likely to end up as drooling passive consumers poking at a tablet and more likely to become hackers.

Exactly! I learned what a BIOS is and does the first time in my life the moment my parents put a BIOS password on the PC. My first rough workaround was to open the case, remove the CMOS battery and reset a pin. Then I found an easier workaround using the DOS debug tool to trigger a BIOS reset with the IO ports 70 and 71 :)
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