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Antioxidants and Cancer: Have we got it Backwards?

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Re: Antioxidants and Cancer: Have we got it Backwards?

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It does? I think the vast majority of plants that most people (at least, where I live) eat are non-fruit. Potatoes, beans, rice and other grains...

i would consider fruits to be a nontrivial group. not saying they're a major part of everyone's diet necessarily, but they're not quite something to be brushed aside as not significant.

Especially since many "vegetables" are fruits in the botanical sense; tomatoes, cucumbers, squash, pumpkins, bell and hot peppers.

Re: Antioxidants and Cancer: Have we got it Backwards?

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I'm not sure if we have it backwards, but the article definitely oversimplifies it. It also makes some embarrassing points for ephasis, plants using antioxidants as defenses, green tea might be, but I doubt many fruits are NOT meant to be eaten by animals. The health benefits of a diet high in fruits and vegetables are supported by very strong science. We've also had some very good recent research into vitamins and o…

Complicated, indeed... I don't see why one should necessarily assume that the diets might prevent cancer before it happens will cure cancer once it happens, yet it seems like the article is making something like an argument for this...

The actual data presented in the article suggests that anti-oxidants may aid the spread of cancer (metastasis) by reducing oxidative stress on dispersing cells.

Re: Antioxidants and Cancer: Have we got it Backwards?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Complicated, indeed... I don't see why one should necessarily assume that the diets might prevent cancer before it happens will cure cancer once it happens, yet it seems like the article is making something like an argument for this...

The actual data presented in the article suggests that anti-oxidants may aid the spread of cancer (metastasis) by reducing oxidative stress on dispersing cells.

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Re: Antioxidants and Cancer: Have we got it Backwards?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Complicated, indeed... I don't see why one should necessarily assume that the diets might prevent cancer before it happens will cure cancer once it happens, yet it seems like the article is making something like an argument for this...

The actual data presented in the article suggests that anti-oxidants may aid the spread of cancer (metastasis) by reducing oxidative stress on dispersing cells.

Sure, but there's a difference between aiding in the spread of the cancer you are unlucky enough to have and contributing to causing someone to get cancer, which a complex and not fully understood process...

Re: Antioxidants and Cancer: Have we got it Backwards?

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post #25

no discussion about cancer is complete without mentioning "the china study" by Collin Campbell conclusion? eat whole food, plant-based diet and we don't need labels like vegetarian/vegan. why? because eating fried fries, potatoe chips, smoking, drinking, sodas, candies ... while correctly not including animals ... are not healthy

That's sort of like saying no discussion of physics is complete without mentioning the latest article about how physics suppresses perpetual-motion researchers.

no

have you read the china study yet? if you haven't, please restrain from commenting, thx

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