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Standing desk experiment and consequent knee injury

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Re: Standing desk experiment and consequent knee injury

#31
One suggestion which I got from here on HN is to have some sort of small stool or object on which to rest one foot at a time while standing. It's much more comfortable than keeping equal weight on both feet and the reason why there's a brass rail on the floor in bars.

I use my desk in sitting mode most of the time. Of course, I've been breaking up my working day with a 45 minute run in the middle, but it's still great to have the option sometimes to stand.

Re: Standing desk experiment and consequent knee injury

#33
Standing in one place all day is the whole reason I never tried standing desks. It's painful as hell to stand all day. A treadmill desk might not be as bad, but my knees are generally unhappy whenever they absorb any kind of impact force. And sitting up/laying back isn't great because it basically atrophies your muscles from not being used at all for 8 hours a day.

It doesn't make much sense for us to work a set number of hours, anyway, since most tech jobs aren't repetitive labor, they're projects which can take anywhere between 15 minutes and two months. I'd rather just work less hours, have a more dynamic schedule, or just take an hour or two in the middle of the day to go climb a tree.

Re: Standing desk experiment and consequent knee injury

#34
I've tried standing desks a few times and what I've found is that if your going to work more than regular hours it's a bad idea. That is you should not stand more than 8 hours a day for 5 days a week. And even then that should be punctuated by breaks such as lunch, meetings, etc.

The main difference I found say compared toa cashier is that you barely move. You don't twist side to side and so on. This might seem small but it's important.

The biggest issue though is that if you're doing a startup with long hours you need to be very careful. Like everything else overdoing anything is bad.

Re: Standing desk experiment and consequent knee injury

#35

I've tried standing desks a few times and what I've found is that if your going to work more than regular hours it's a bad idea. That is you should not stand more than 8 hours a day for 5 days a week. And even then that should be punctuated by breaks such as lunch, meetings, etc. The main difference I found say compared toa cashier is that you barely move. You don't twist side to side and so on. This might seem small…

The recommendation I've seen from others before building my standing desk, and certainly the pattern I follow, is to alternative sitting and standing. My desk is set up for a standing situation, but I can undock my laptop and sit at any time. Some days I stand 65% of the time, some days I stand 10% of the time.

Mix it up, feel better.

Re: Standing desk experiment and consequent knee injury

#36
post #12

Summary: a guy with an undiscovered previous injury aggravated it with a lifestyle change, and now it's on the front page of HN scaring people away from living a healthier (less-sitting) lifestyle. You have one unfortunate story, but I have the opposite positive story. As usual, it means that people are not all the same - and what works for one doesn't necessarily work for another. What's your bodyweight? Are you car…

I think if we take the mid-point between your story and his, we're getting there. Everything in moderation. That means sitting is fine and standing is fine, just not too much excess of either. My wife, an ex-carer, knows a number of athletic people who have very serious problems in their 50s and 60s as they've worn their hips and spine out. Conversely she knows a number of people with diabetes and heart problems in t…

The problem is that modern life is not geared toward moderation. The way our economy is structured, most people have to spend their entire day working in order to make ends meet. And for a lot of people "work" means being tied to a computer for 8 or more hours. The human body is really not well suited to doing any one thing for longer than 8 hours at a time, but unfortunately our lifestyle almost requires it.

Re: Standing desk experiment and consequent knee injury

#37
post #9

I'm pretty sure chairs were invented for a reason.

So were cigarettes (which were even touted as a healthy thing for a period of time, and later found to be harmful). The point being: lots of thing are invented for a reason - but is that reason valid? Does it lead to secondary effects that outweigh the benefits?

Re: Standing desk experiment and consequent knee injury

#38

I've tried standing desks a few times and what I've found is that if your going to work more than regular hours it's a bad idea. That is you should not stand more than 8 hours a day for 5 days a week. And even then that should be punctuated by breaks such as lunch, meetings, etc. The main difference I found say compared toa cashier is that you barely move. You don't twist side to side and so on. This might seem small…

The recommendation I've seen from others before building my standing desk, and certainly the pattern I follow, is to alternative sitting and standing. My desk is set up for a standing situation, but I can undock my laptop and sit at any time. Some days I stand 65% of the time, some days I stand 10% of the time. Mix it up, feel better.

http://www.nextdesks.com/

Re: Standing desk experiment and consequent knee injury

#40
post #24

My father-in-law works (and stands) on street market for past 40 years. He is in similar shape as other man in his age. So I think there is no miracle here, just some physical work and exercise.

I'll bet your father-in-law moves about a fair bit on his stall assuming the market has barrows or stalls. I think the issue might be simply not moving much in whatever stance.

I'm a teacher and in term time in classes (6h a day usually) I'm not sitting much at all, but then I'm not standing in one place much either. No issues as yet...

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