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Re: A Room Where Executives Go to Get Help from IBM’s Watson

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Post by anigbrowl » Sat, Aug 09, 2014, 6:37 AM UTC

Houshalter wrote: post #30

anigbrowl wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We're not going to become gods by making simulacra of perfectly obedient servants. If anything, this is more likely to support the development of a hostile AI that considers total submission a desirable end state to impose on others.

This has nothing to do with AGI, period. Watson is certainly not going to rebel against you. Nor is it intended to be significant progress towards human level AI. I also find it funny you think the secret sauce to AGI is "a sense of curiosity". Yes, as if that was the only thing holding computers back. If only someone had thought of that before.

Of course, I put all my thinking about AGI into those two sentences and now you have crushed my dreams forever.

Re: A Room Where Executives Go to Get Help from IBM’s Watson

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Post by sgt101 » Sat, Aug 09, 2014, 7:05 AM UTC

AndrewKemendo wrote: post #25

sgt101 wrote: post #24

IBM reps have been pitching Watson to me for years, but never have we seen an implementation or a commercial offer, much less a demonstration of something of value to us. Weirdly it clearly exists, or did exist, but I think marketing and sales have robbed R&D of the budget required to create a product and until they sell the non existent I think this will continue to be the case. If I was an IBM stockholder I would b…

>IBM reps have been pitching Watson to me for years, but never have we seen an implementation or a commercial offer, much less a demonstration of something of value to us. What exactly have they been pitching you?

Watson for CRM.

The pitches are at the level of "a pipeline off tools" + "a new level of automation", getting to detail elicits a "call with the team" which involves a discussion about "the pipeline of tools" and a possible POC, which has not happened.

We actually had a Question Answering system research strand ourselves which we couldn't really get anywhere with and I killed (mea-culpa) because of Watson, Google and Siri. I thought that we had no chance of making any headway against such strong competition and imagined that QA tech would be available in the contact centre and on the Intranet in short order.

More fool me! I've been embarrassed ever since.

Re: A Room Where Executives Go to Get Help from IBM’s Watson

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Post by AndrewKemendo » Sat, Aug 09, 2014, 5:17 PM UTC

sgt101 wrote: post #32

AndrewKemendo wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>IBM reps have been pitching Watson to me for years, but never have we seen an implementation or a commercial offer, much less a demonstration of something of value to us. What exactly have they been pitching you?

Watson for CRM. The pitches are at the level of "a pipeline off tools" + "a new level of automation", getting to detail elicits a "call with the team" which involves a discussion about "the pipeline of tools" and a possible POC, which has not happened. We actually had a Question Answering system research strand ourselves which we couldn't really get anywhere with and I killed (mea-culpa) because of Watson, Google and…

Sounds like they don't really know what Watson would be best for and are hoping their customers can tell them. Not a terrible strategy but really doesn't look right coming from IBM.